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Message: [QUOTE="superjohn, post: 3211692, member: 1522"] Come on, follow along. I said players aren't stronger then when the majority of the league was juiced. And I keep telling you over and over, you can have all the sports "science" trainers , dietitians, fancy feedback equipment, recovery etc. and it won't come anywhere close to the person who is taking the drugs and training. Don't know why this is so hard for you to understand. I latched onto it because you said all of that stuff has more than filled the void for drugs which is complete nonsense. [/QUOTE]