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Many will recall wondering what Rutgers was thinking when they hired Julie Hermann as AD in 2013 in the wake of the Mike Rice scandal amid questions about her own questionable incidents as coach.

Her tenure didn't last long. She was fired today.
 

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Along with the football coach.

She was fired either because -
- they didn't think a woman could hire the new football coach
- the folks that donate and didn't want her in the first place refused to give any more money as long as she was there
- Chris Christie wanted his own person in as AD - because RU did hire one of Christie's appointees as the new permanent AD

Put another way, she cared too much about "all" sports and not exclusively about football - the Louisville model. RU / the Governor want RU to be a football powerhouse.

She did an OK job at RU, even the "firing" memo says she did ok, just wasn't the leadership the powers that be wanted.
 

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She should have been fired the week she was hired.
If there was any truth to the stories out of Louisville, she should never have been hired. It appears to have never been proved. If there had not been several other high profile cases (including Illinois) where significant numbers of players made what turned out to be unsubstantiated accusations I would have believed it. Never-the-less, the suspicion can never be removed.

Once she was, I believe you can only judge based on her current performance. In neither her Rutgers performance nor in her Louisville performance were there any issues, so far as has ever been reported.

I would not have supported hiring her as a coach, regardless of the truth, and that's a shame. But that's the way the world is, if you mess up once you cannot ever be assumed to correct your behavior or be sufficiently punished. Thankfully, I grew up and lived in a different age where mistakes that could have gotten me fired (and I wasn't thanks to a supporting boss) were learned from and, in the end, spent my entire working career with one company (my job was ended by a merger) and survived 2 rounds of firings and department "shrinkage" over the years.
 

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Along with the football coach.

She was fired either because -
- they didn't think a woman could hire the new football coach
- the folks that donate and didn't want her in the first place refused to give any more money as long as she was there
- Chris Christie wanted his own person in as AD - because RU did hire one of Christie's appointees as the new permanent AD

Put another way, she cared too much about "all" sports and not exclusively about football - the Louisville model. RU / the Governor want RU to be a football powerhouse.

She did an OK job at RU, even the "firing" memo says she did ok, just wasn't the leadership the powers that be wanted.
Just wow. If her tenure at Rutgers can be considered an "OK" job, then the standards are indeed really really low. All for pushing to finally get some women into the top university AD positions, but she was not the person you wanted as a pioneering type and her years at Rutgers just left it as more of a punch line of "What did the B10 dredge up when it was digging in the Jersey meadowlands?"
 

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Along with the football coach.

She was fired either because -
- they didn't think a woman could hire the new football coach
- the folks that donate and didn't want her in the first place refused to give any more money as long as she was there
- Chris Christie wanted his own person in as AD - because RU did hire one of Christie's appointees as the new permanent AD

Put another way, she cared too much about "all" sports and not exclusively about football - the Louisville model. RU / the Governor want RU to be a football powerhouse.

She did an OK job at RU, even the "firing" memo says she did ok, just wasn't the leadership the powers that be wanted.

Sometimes it is hard to remember that even though Christie is spending a lot of time running for president, he still has to run New Jersey. Or at least spend some time at it.

I think one of the reasons Scott Walker bailed out as early as he did was that he was getting a lot of grief for being absent from Wisconsin so much, and the criticism was coming from his own party, not the Democrats.
 

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- This former University of Tennessee volleyball head coach had highly publicized (print, TV, and internet) integrity allegations and interpersonal-skill issues that came to light prior to taking this office. Not surprisingly, that media perception did not improve when Rutgers' leadership blew it off and put her on the payroll, without simply further vetting.
- Putting aside for a moment any personal bias we may assume our neighbors have toward a specific sport, gender, political party, or personal acquaintance in office... it seems germane to first, simply ask: "Would I give my money to this AD? Would I want my daughters' and sons' protection against bullying ultimately overseen by this AD?
Is this the best we can do for $450,000 per year?

ARTICLE 1 Excerpts:

“Trouble began before Hermann even took office, as she denied at her introductory news conference the existence of a video tape in which she says she would be upset if a former assistant of hers with the University of Tennessee women’s volleyball team got pregnant.

The tape HERE later surfaced and members of that 1996 team also came forward to accuse Hermann, the head coach, of bullying and name-calling…”

…“Hermann’s difficulties fundraising and the lack of confidence she inspired from her staff and her superiors contributed to her undoing…”

“A few months later, then-Rutgers football player Jevon Tyree accused then-assistant coach Dave Cohen of bullying. Tyree’s parents and Hermann wound up in a public he-said she-said over whether or not Hermann actually spoke to them about the incident when they tried to contact her.

“Rutgers was cleared of the bullying allegation during an outside investigation, which never resolved whether or not Hermann and the parents spoke. Hermann maintained she spoke with a man posing as Tyree’s father after a face-to-face meeting between the two sides was brokered…”


ARTICLE 2 Excerpts:

’As everyone knows, in May of 2014, Hermann — who today was fired along with head football coach Kyle Flood — left a voicemail for Eric LeGrand saying Rutgers was reneging on its offer to make him the keynote speaker at the upcoming commencement. Former New Jersey Gov. Thomas H. Kean was getting the nod instead.

“(University) President (Robert) Barchi decided to go in a different direction because of political reasons,” the paralyzed Scarlet Knights football player reported Hermann as saying.

The next part has been chewed over many times within Rutgers’ administrative circles: Upon reading about the voicemail, Barchi’s head exploded. His office’s instructions to Hermann had been simple: Explain to LeGrand that he still would be a speaker, just not the speaker.

That the wrong message was communicated and, worse yet, done via voicemail only — plus the aftermath that a vexed LeGrand could not get Hermann to return his call — served as the tipping point for Barchi. It was the moment when he finally realized Hermann could not do the job. He might have been the last person in New Jersey to arrive at that conclusion.

From then on, Hermann was a dead AD walking. Her grand plan for an athletes’ village got ignored, and she was cut out of the loop as the administration dealt with this fall’s football scandals. Why did Barchi allow a lame-duck AD without the necessary interpersonal skills to limp along for 17 months? Money was one reason, and also this was the same guy who could not figure out how to play the Mike Rice video on his computer...”
 

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And if she wasn't doing the job, she should have been fired regardless. Why would you keep her when keeping Rice was the problem when she was hired? Interesting Barchi says - looking back - that he has never doubted her integrity and commitment to Rutgers athletes.

Not being in NJ - and not following RU closely - I knew nothing about many of the matters in the articles and never met her. She was neither popular or unpopular with the folks I know, however, there is some concern that the new regime will not be supportive of women's basketball at a time when a new coach is certainly in the offing.

My main issue has always been that - as predicted in my house - she was never going to be successful because of the baggage she brought and the fact that almost everything about Rutgers is presented negatively in the local media.
 

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And if she wasn't doing the job, she should have been fired regardless. Why would you keep her when keeping Rice was the problem when she was hired? Interesting Barchi says - looking back - that he has never doubted her integrity and commitment to Rutgers athletes.

Not being in NJ - and not following RU closely - I knew nothing about many of the matters in the articles and never met her. She was neither popular or unpopular with the folks I know, however, there is some concern that the new regime will not be supportive of women's basketball at a time when a new coach is certainly in the offing.

My main issue has always been that - as predicted in my house - she was never going to be successful because of the baggage she brought and the fact that almost everything about Rutgers is presented negatively in the local media.

I was hopeful that she would get the job done, but things at my second favorite school are a mess. Christie should have no say about how the Rutgers AD is run; he needs to worry about keeping his bridges in order. I wouldn't be surprised if they rehire Greg Schiano as the head football coach. I don't know who they'll hire as AD.
 
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