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Message: [QUOTE="JordyG, post: 2879269, member: 6819"] Well said. Some people would say this is another instance where men attempt to co-op, subsume or minimize the accomplishments of women. To say this is merely a rights issue for the transgendered fails to take into account a whole host of societal issues, the top of that list being the right of women to enjoy competition in a system of a presumptive meritocracy. To me any "new" woman that wins in any such competition against women by birth is no true victor and a loss for everyone else. [/QUOTE]