OT- foul call at end of Celtics game

[superjohn]

On the Celtics final possession they had a chance to tie but the refs called a moving screen on KG. Some of my Celtics friends were irate at the call. I tried to tell them it was definitely the right call, KG was moving and clearly impeded the defenders progress and almost knocked him over freeing up Pierce to get the ball. I normally think the refs are awful but I applaud them for making the right call at the end against the home team.

 

[Scoe]

KG got away with it last year not this year though

 

[Burnsbros23]

I thought it was an easy call really leaned in, moved his feet, and threw the elbows out.

 

[aceboon]

It was a good call, I'm just surprised they called it since KG has been setting moving screens just like that for a decade now.

 

[Ricky1Moore]

You guys must be Knicks fans, and disgruntled... While clearly an illegal screen, calling it then is a little ridiculous... Particularly in light of the way the rest of the game was called. Game was given to the 76ers with that call...

The defender wasnt knocked down, and would have been beaten off the initial legal screen, kg just seemed to lose his balance a little

 

[UCHuskies08]

That was BLATANT, are there really complaints about it?

 

[Ricky1Moore]

Def no complaints, it was the right call so you can't complain. But obviously as a Celts fan it's annoying to see that called with 10 seconds left in a playoff game at home.

Celts just lost a championship a few years ago because of blatant one sided refereeing on the home court

 

[SWHuskyFan]

That was BLATANT, are there really complaints about it?

The issue here is not whether or not it was a foul, it obviously was. The issue is that they rarely call off the ball fouls in this situation. They mostly don't call on the ball fouls either.

I'd be happy if this type of foul was called more often. The anything goes mentality in end of game situations is not good for the game. The skill players should rule these situations and all the fouling marginalizes them.

As long as they let it go 90% of the time, you're going to hear complaints on the 10% they do call. Rightfully so if you ask me.

 

[specialisthusky]

sixers fan here....right call but i can't undestand how my guys got the call in that possession. Like another poster said KG has made a living off moving screens no different than that one, and there were plenty of earlier screens similiar to the final possession that weren't called in this game. I can certainly understand the frustration from Celts fans. Unfortunately there is only so much BS a ref can let garnett get away with, crazy he chose to make his point at that moment, but wonderful for my sixers.

 

[caw]

That was an illegal screen by rule.

Almost every screen in the NBA is an illegal screen, very few NBA players set solid/by the book screens.

Both teams did the same thing on numerous occasions all game long without having it called. That shouldn't have been called based on how the game was being reffed.

I usually complain when they don't make that call, when it has been called all game. This was the opposite. They were letting it go all game and called it when it was at the most critical juncture. The game should be called the same all game. Consistently bad is better than inconsistent in my book.

I am not a Celtics fan (though I follow them because of Ray).

 

[UofCT]

The wrong call was Doc drawing up a play for Pierce and not Ray Ray.

 

[UCHuskies08]

That was an illegal screen by rule.

Almost every screen in the NBA is an illegal screen, very few NBA players set solid/by the book screens.

Both teams did the same thing on numerous occasions all game long without having it called. That shouldn't have been called based on how the game was being reffed.

I usually complain when they don't make that call, when it has been called all game. This was the opposite. They were letting it go all game and called it when it was at the most critical juncture. The game should be called the same all game. Consistently bad is better than inconsistent in my book.

I am not a Celtics fan (though I follow them because of Ray).

Didn't he get called for other illegal screens in that game, and Danny Crawford had warned him about it?

 

[willie99]

it's a play that happens for about 48 minutes out of 48 minutes during an NBA game

that call was just an example of a ref that thinks he's the game, call something he let slide for 47:50 so as to make sure he helps determine the outcome.

happens far too often in sports

 

[willie99]

also loved the 21-9 FT advantage for the Sixers

touch calls result in two shots, but maulings under the hoop are play on. NBA officials may be the worst of any sport with their inconsistent calls, home team calls (in most games) and superstar treatment for certain players.

KG shooting 1 FT is an absolute joke

 

[aceboon]

You guys must be Knicks fans, and disgruntled... While clearly an illegal screen, calling it then is a little ridiculous... Particularly in light of the way the rest of the game was called. Game was given to the 76ers with that call...

The defender wasnt knocked down, and would have been beaten off the initial legal screen, kg just seemed to lose his balance a little

No, the game was given to the Sixers when the Cs played lethargic as hell for 3 quarters and then ratched up the intensity for the 4th. Plus they were down 3 anyway, there's no guarantee they tie that game up. Hard to get on Rondo since so much is on his shoulders and he just had a great Game 1 but he needed to pick up his play in that game and look to penetrate more instead of letting Pierce brick jumpers.

 

[nomar]

I didn't have a problem with the call.

But was with Turner taking like 12 steps and getting credit with the basket? (Not the layup in the last minute, the previous bucket by Turner.) That was outrageous. It's either a foul or a travel. Not a no call.

 

[UChusky916]

lol @ the celtics homers in this thread.

Blatant moving screen. Should have been called and it was.

 

[Scoe]

Like Charles Barkley was saying the Celtics were screwing around and thats ultimately what cost them the game, give the Sixers credit but the bottom line the Celtics screwed themselves. I still think the Celtics win the series, and they may be better off playing on the road.

 

[caw]

Didn't he get called for other illegal screens in that game, and Danny Crawford had warned him about it?

There were only 5 offensive fouls called all game. I don't believe they were all for illegal screens, I think two were. I saw way more than 5 moving screens/illegal screens.

KG got called for two offensive fouls in the game. I honestly don't remember the other one. It was on Spencer Hawes, so I don't think it was for an illegal screen.

There could have been a warning, I was watching on mute, so I don't know. If he did get a warning, everyone should have. The NBA is just silly with what is called and what isn't and I love the NBA. A warning is the silliest thing of all in this situation, if you are giving a warning, then something happened that should have been called, just make the damn call, don't give a warning about possibly calling it in the future.

EDIT:

I am OK with a warning if the warning is preceding a technical but for a regular foul, just make the call.

 

[willie99]

LOL @ the Celtic haters in this thread

acting like that call is actually made 5% of the time, it's not

 

[UConn990411]

KG does that about a dozen times a game (along with most NBA big men...if you watch how they set screens, almost all of them are illegal), so it's kind of ridiculous that the ref decided to wait until the final 12 seconds to call it. But when you have a league whose officials' egos are more bloated than half the players, those things tend to happen.

I thought Barkley's comments after the game were spot on, though - the Celtics haven't taken the Sixers seriously for two games now, and that was eventually going to catch up to them. It's a shame a veteran team like this needs yet another wake up call, but I expect them to come out with a lot more fire in Game 3.

 

[willie99]

and for the record, I don't blame the C's loss on that call

I also believe they advance past the Philly

 

[UConn990411]

The wrong call was Doc drawing up a play for Pierce and not Ray Ray.

Yeah, I mean, it's not like Pierce has ever hit a big shot in his career...

 

[UCHuskies08]

There were only 5 offensive fouls called all game. I don't believe they were all for illegal screens, I think two were. I saw way more than 5 moving screens/illegal screens.

KG got called for two offensive fouls in the game. I honestly don't remember the other one. It was on Spencer Hawes, so I don't think it was for an illegal screen.

There could have been a warning, I was watching on mute, so I don't know. If he did get a warning, everyone should have. The NBA is just silly with what is called and what isn't and I love the NBA. A warning is the silliest thing of all in this situation, if you are giving a warning, then something happened that should have been called, just make the damn call, don't give a warning about possibly calling it in the future.

EDIT:

I am OK with a warning if the warning is preceding a technical but for a regular foul, just make the call.

He was called for another moving screen, and he said that Crawford had warned him that they would be calling it. No excuses.

 

[sparky]

I am a huge Celtics fan and love KG, but it was the right call. He appeared to have planted himself, but then leaned into the defender and he even lost his balance. Right call tough time to call it, but it was called earlier in the game. I officiated for 16 years and although you don't want the ref's call to determine the outcome, I applaud teh call. I wish they would be more consistent with it though. It seems on most half court sets you can call a moving screen on the celtics. It is what it is. If you don't want it called don't do it. The reason guys like KG do it is because the offensive player makes a banana cut rather than a straight move and KG has to compensate, though illegal.