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Message: [QUOTE="WhiteDressWes, post: 3284121, member: 3247"] I've been a vegetarian since 1987, when Eat'N Chicken (Maple ave at Broad St, Hartford) went out of business. Other than their burgers, I don't like the taste of most meats. I was dumb enough to believe that high levels of LDL are bad, even though my HS biology teacher in 1967 moonlighted on Framingham, where the research showed that the higher the level of LDL the longer the life span. Red meat from a factory is not that bad. From the pasture, it is health food. Sugar is the ultimate unhealthy food = WHITE DEATH. Grains end up as sugars. A lot of veg. oils are bad. I use coconut, avocado, Moroccan Olive oil, all cold pressed. All the negatives about high fat diets come from the drug companies that want people to be unhealthy so that they can profit from epidemic levels of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, hypertension. Alzheimer's, etc. caused by high carb and, to a lesser extent, high protein diets (they can no longer count on Vioxx for profits when it killed 30,000 people). [/QUOTE]