OT: Clowney

[Brochacho]

Do you guys think the NCAA/NFL should have a special exception when a player like Clowney comes along? I think they should. Maybe if you make the AA team as a true sophomore then send a poll out to the teams with a top ten pick in the draft and if 60% of them show interest grant that player an exception? I personally really would like it if the Eagles could have gotten him this year.

 

[whaler11]

Picking 4th? Good luck with that.

 

[Brochacho]

Picking 4th? Good luck with that.

Wishful thinking, of course.

 

[HartfordHank]

Do you guys think the NCAA/NFL should have a special exception when a player like Clowney comes along? I think they should. Maybe if you make the AA team as a true sophomore then send a poll out to the teams with a top ten pick in the draft and if 60% of them show interest grant that player an exception? I personally really would like it if the Eagles could have gotten him this year.

He probably would go #1 in the draft this year or will next. If you are not drafting #1 why vote for him to come out. Keep him in school so you have a chance at him next year. Once you put in exceptions you will run into all sorts of reasons, some might be reasonable, to take advantage of that exception. Not a bad thing to have him get another year in. I read he has a substantial insurance policy in case he gets hurt.

 

[huskysupporter]

There shouldn't be an age limit in any sport. Absolutely ridiculous rule.

 

[HistoryMajor]

Supporter - Totally agree. BUT remember ten (or more) years ago Maurice Clarret (sp) of Ohio State took this all the way thru the court system - he may have made it to the Supreme Court. Frankly I was shocked when he lost.

 

[huskysupporter]

Supporter - Totally agree. BUT remember ten (or more) years ago Maurice Clarret (sp) of Ohio State took this all the way thru the court system - he may have made it to the Supreme Court. Frankly I was shocked when he lost.

It is absolutely ridiculous. Yes some kids are going to make stupid decisions and come out and not get drafted. So what? I used to be on the other side of the fence on this issue, but I have completely changed my opinion. If an amateur wants to go pro, let them.

 

[Uconnalliance]

Do you guys think the NCAA/NFL should have a special exception when a player like Clowney comes along? I think they should. Maybe if you make the AA team as a true sophomore then send a poll out to the teams with a top ten pick in the draft and if 60% of them show interest grant that player an exception? I personally really would like it if the Eagles could have gotten him this year.

It's a shame the Eagles couldn't draft him and cut him in 20 pieces to fill all the holes they have.( sorry bro i am a die hard fan of the G men)

 

[superjohn]

It's also ridiculous that all these media guys that never played a sport all think Clowney should sit out next season.

 

[sportsart]

I think it saves a few broken bodies of kids not physically ready to play with the big boys.

It's like going from a sophmore or junior in high school to playing as a true freshman in college. They're just not physically ready.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

Need to return to pre Spencer Heywood days. Accept a scholarship (which should be for for years not yearly) that is worth approximately $225k today and you are obligated to stay all four years. No leaving early for NBA, NFL, MLB or anywhere else. Want to play professionally? Either jump to NBA out of High School or train yourself forma few years.

Ridiculous to see situations like Kentucky hoops (lease a team a year at a time). This years UConn hoops team should have still J Lamb and Drummond (how could would this team be?). NCAA womens hoops have it right.

 

[uconnfan68]

I think it saves a few broken bodies of kids not physically ready to play with the big boys.

It's like going from a sophmore or junior in high school to playing as a true freshman in college. They're just not physically ready.

One would hope they aren't that stupid to being with. However, some "non-contact" sports have the age limits too. NBA for one.

 

[BHusky]

A 18 year old kid will not be able to "out athlete" players in the NFL like kids may be able to in the NHL, MLB or NBA. These kids would be crushed physically if they were allowed to enter the NFL. For the most part those other athletes are playing college level competition in AAU tounaments or international hockey tournaments to guage what the best may be like. And when/if they could go pro, their contracts were guaranteed. That HS player who was a bust in the NBA at least has a few million in the bank to fall back on.

The difference in physicality is huge and the sole reason no rule should be changed. To a lesser extent, what front court hoops player left HS (when they could) and had success in the NBA? Garnett maybe, but he was not a post player early in his career because he was a string bean and got beat up down low. The guys who made it did not need to bang and get physical with more mature and bigger players. The NFL takes this to another stratesphere when it comes to that.

The NFL is a for profit company looking to get as much money as possible. If they really thought there was talent in HS that would make their product better, they would certainly allow it. What exactly do they get for making a kid they think can make an NFL impact stay out of the league for 3 years. It is only hurting their product if that was the case. That is a NFL rule, not an NCAA rule. Lets be honest and say it is not a rule to protect these kids versus it being established because they know that no HS kid is worthy or making an impact in the NFL. And for that they put rules in place so they don't have to deal with this issue.

 

[uconnfan68]

A 18 year old kid will not be able to "out athlete" players in the NFL like kids may be able to in the NHL, MLB or NBA. These kids would be crushed physically if they were allowed to enter the NFL. For the most part those other athletes are playing college level competition in AAU tounaments or international hockey tournaments to guage what the best may be like. And when/if they could go pro, their contracts were guaranteed. That HS player who was a bust in the NBA at least has a few million in the bank to fall back on.

The difference in physicality is huge and the sole reason no rule should be changed. To a lesser extent, what front court hoops player left HS (when they could) and had success in the NBA? Garnett maybe, but he was not a post player early in his career because he was a string bean and got beat up down low. The guys who made it did not need to bang and get physical with more mature and bigger players. The NFL takes this to another stratesphere when it comes to that.

The NFL is a for profit company looking to get as much money as possible. If they really thought there was talent in HS that would make their product better, they would certainly allow it. What exactly do they get for making a kid they think can make an NFL impact stay out of the league for 3 years. It is only hurting their product if that was the case. That is a NFL rule, not an NCAA rule. Lets be honest and say it is not a rule to protect these kids versus it being established because they know that no HS kid is worthy or making an impact in the NFL. And for that they put rules in place so they don't have to deal with this issue.

Moses Malone was pretty good out of HS. Daryl Dawkins was ready physically. And others. But the point is they had the chance. Kids today don't. They need to go to UK and wait a year.

 

[BHusky]

Moses Malone was pretty good out of HS. Daryl Dawkins was ready physically. And others. But the point is they had the chance. Kids today don't. They need to go to UK and wait a year.

For arguments sake I was thinking of more current guys in the last 15-20 years. I only bring up big men in basketball because it is the closest thing to a HS kid jumping to the NFL in regards to being physically ready. Baseball is a individual sport for the most part and you can get away with not being physical in hockey using speed and agility. I don't agree with the NBA rule since there is little difference between a player as a Freshman in September and getting drafted 10 months later.

I was referring to the NFL rule being in place for good reason. A kid is simply not ready to make that jump at 18 or 19 years old. The only people arguing for Clowney to petition the NFL or sit out are people outside his team and or family. The kid himself never expected anything less than playing his Jr year.

 

[husky91]

If I was Clowney I would bag college and go do the full year workout. An agent will fund him and he could probably even do some endorsements.

This is a unique scenario and rate we see this occur.

It's also ridiculous that all these media guys that never played a sport all think Clowney should sit out next season.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

It is absolutely ridiculous. Yes some kids are going to make stupid decisions and come out and not get drafted. So what? I used to be on the other side of the fence on this issue, but I have completely changed my opinion. If an amateur wants to go pro, let them.

This isn't about protecting kids from themselves and coming out too early. This is about protecting the teams. If they want to keep a rule like this, I don't mind (especially in football where this discussion rarely comes up). All I keep hearing is, if these guys want to go pro, the league shouldn't stop them. Where does that stop though? I mean if that is true, why should they be subject to the draft and not be able to sign with whoever they want for however much they can get? This is all just part of the way the business works and the leagues have to be able to factor in some protection from their team and the risk of untapped potential.

 

[Adios]

Interesting perspective from Forbes.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johntam...adeveon-clowney-exception-to-wreck-its-brand/

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

You cannot have 18 kids playing in the NFL. You just can't. College football does it right. The one and done rule has made college hoops a complete farce. You make an exception for Clowney you might as well throw away the rule. I think it benefits both the college and the NFL game.

 

[husky91]

I wouldn't make an exception, just if I was Clowney I would bag college for the last year.

You cannot have 18 kids playing in the NFL. You just can't. College football does it right. The one and done rule has made college hoops a complete farce. You make an exception for Clowney you might as well throw away the rule. I think it benefits both the college and the NFL game.