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Message: [QUOTE="ClifSpliffy, post: 3248293, member: 9260"] full on grass nut here. not in a fertilize and obsess way, but in an experimental and hobby way. on that journey and completely by accident, I passively encouraged a small patch of zoysia to 'run free' over the past 1/2 dozen or so years, and now it's up to about a half acre, starting from around a couple hundred square feet. nothing done to it ever, I just let it continue to expand. the stuff is amazing. dense, soft, impervious to weeds, it's either a beautiful green or a 'sleeping yellowish.' it also grows slowly and definitely requires less mowing. it's recent success here feels like a reflection of the climate change, but i'm not certain that's the reason. whatever, the stuff is fantastic. [/QUOTE]