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Message: [QUOTE="Exit 4, post: 2773569, member: 2268"] Lots of good advice in this chain overall. My experience is similar to Rob’s. The battle against crab grass is won in March. You have to rake it out then put down the pre emergent and reseed with good stuff. It takes two springs of the process to turn around most lawns. And it will help to pull crab grass out by the root if the size of the area you at dealing with us reasonable, but pulling by root only is effective if combined with the March pre emergent. [/QUOTE]