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Message: [QUOTE="TheFarmFan, post: 3444072, member: 9403"] Here's what I'd say: OSU has more talent, ASU has more grit. When the OSU talent is off, they don't seem to have much margin for error anymore. ASU can try a lot of different combinations, plays, players, etc. As the season has worn on, some of OSU's shooting talent (esp. Goodman and Tudor) has gone missing, and Slocum, Jones, and Pivec aren't quite at the level of talent or athleticism that Ionescu, Hebard, and Sabally are such that they can just take over games by themselves. The OSU three-headed monster needs more help, and they haven't been getting it lately, esp. now that Brown is out. It was abundantly clear to me the drop-off from Brown to Maddie Washington in the UCLA game. Washington grits hard but lacks either the height or the shooting talent to post up effectively alongside Jones. [/QUOTE]