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Message: [QUOTE="hoophuskee, post: 3423946, member: 3535"] Nah-- you are way overrating one-one between centers. Going hard against each other while one is superior- the playing hard comment is irrelevant. Actually I think kids get a bad wrap by posters on here and outside of here when the kids get accused of "not playing hard" or "They don't care." Maybe you recall on other threads after games I'm always disagreeing with anyone that thinks like that. They all play hard overall. SO your point of playing hard gies both ways. These kids all play hard wiht their heart. But when Hebard gets the ball around the basket - she dominates. There is no way that at this point Liv does this. And she didn't do it tonight. She took 5 shots. How is that a center that took 5 shots is an impact when her team is struggling to score? You've seen basketball enough over your lifetime and you've heard commentators mention for example how UCONN takes away the best scorer. Some of the other players might shoot a higher % on that given day but that's how the defense is set up. Let the lesser offensive player beat you. You think Oregon was doubling Liv? If she had the impact as you imply why only 5 shots? The UCONN team needed offense, didn't they? WHere was the screaming get me the ball from Liv? The same way you've seen all your life how teams like uCONN used to take away the best option and force the opposing team into lesser options happened exactly here. IMO you are overrating Liv vs not accepting what Oregon was willing to give up. They were willing to give up one-on-one with Liv. And all Liv could do was get off 5 shots. Yes she passed well today. But again as you've seen all your life watching basketball sometimes a poor shooter shoots well on a given night. Yet if the team gets beaten up pretty good - and the offense overall sputtered - you're going to say that that kid was an impact? Bottomline is-- if you are such an impact and 4-5 from the floor and such a helluva passer then why aren't you demanding the ball more when your team is struggling so much to score? Because you can't impact the game. And then again add up defensively the opposing team at least in qtr 1 scoring 23 points from 3-- where was her impact? I saw the same thing Lobo saw about Sabally taking advantage of Liv anytime she was 1 on 1 - at least I thought. Just because others were worse doesn't make what Liv contributed "okay." There were more players that were bad than just MW and CW. And you shouldn't get much kudos at UCONN for "playing hard." They all play hard. At UCONN they play to win. Not give kudos for trying to keep the score close. [/QUOTE]

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