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Message: [QUOTE="Hans Sprungfeld, post: 5056430, member: 181"] You may in time come to a place where "not undeserving" does a satisfactory job filling in the gaps left unconsidered when even thinking about "deserving" vs "earned." I offer this as a friendly suggestion, with no opinion on your POV otherwise. I do however imagine that when elsewhere somebody labels folks as "twisting themselves into knots," it sounds rather knot-twisty itself to a person who hasn't read anything on the subject discussed until this page. [/QUOTE]