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Message: [QUOTE="ctchamps, post: 2003776, member: 37"] Love your honesty. You're concerns are reasonable. I think everyone in this forum has similar concerns. I know I do. There just is a camp that finds it difficult to accept that we all have concerns if we don't go ballistic about things or if we tend to factor things differently or weigh them differently. As soon as I see someone say x is making excuses or being an apologista I know that individual is doing two things. The first is he's relating his opinion about an issue. Those opinions might even have some merit or lots of merit. The second is he's not interested in rational debate even if the posts appear rational. He needs to be right. He's come up with a conclusion and creates the narrative to fit the conclusion and any difference of an opinion is not just a difference of an opinion. It's personal. No one knows all of the factors involved over any event. So we're already at a disadvantage in making projections. But we can start with the factors we know. And then we can decide how much weight we assign to those factors. And even if everyone was in agreement there is no way to know if the conclusion based on discussion would result into the outcome we project. Those of us that are reasonable go through this process automatically and know the future is not predictable. The best we can do is assign probable outcomes. The less reasonable believe that they know the future with certainty. [/QUOTE]