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Message: [QUOTE="Giddyup5, post: 2458622, member: 804"] I don't think its effort. I think its coaching. However, I think its more the cumulative effect of poor coaching over the first 8 games and all the new pieces etc. There have been some good things out of KO. They have switched to the zone D to protect JA and his foul trouble. They have good strategy to attack the zone but poor execution. They have gotten the ball to Larrier multiple times at the foul line but he has turned it over by driving instead of just catching and shooting. Anderson has missed 3 open 3s same with Vital. And for the love of god we have 14 TO and are being out rebounded 17-10 and down 7 on the offensive glass. [/QUOTE]