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Since we're going to hear about his great TD drive, let's get it out of the way.

We didn't lose because Diaco kept Whitmer on a short lease. It wasn't the weather. A garbage time TD against a prevent defense doesn't show his potential.

It's well past time to time to move on. Whitmer simply does not have the talent or moxie to lead this football team. He has been given chance after chance, even handed the ball at the 19 yard line.

If we win any game he starts, it will be a major upset. The only real question is what on earth does Diaco see in Chandler?
 
I've never been a big Whitmer supporter, but he looked serviceable against BSU. Last night was just terrible and the early fumble set it off. Any fear he had about handling a wet football manifested itself immediately and it was all downhill from there. I think it's rather obvious Boyle needs to start, but fears of him getting injured are totally legit. If Diaco is afraid to play him because the OL is so bad, he should just tell us. It would save everyone a lot breath.
 
husky91 said:
Whitmer might be worse than Lorenzen, it's close.
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Lorenzen could run for his life, he would be better with this OL. However, it was painful to watch him throw the ball.
 
Hoophound said:
I've never been a big Whitmer supporter, but he looked serviceable against BSU. Last night was just terrible and the early fumble set it off. Any fear he had about handling a wet football manifested itself immediately and it was all downhill from there. I think it's rather obvious Boyle needs to start, but fears of him getting injured are totally legit. If Diaco is afraid to play him because the OL is so bad, he should just tell us. It would save everyone a lot breath.
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I'm ready to see more of Boyle, but I can't blame Chandler for losing ball after getting drilled from the blindside in a monsoon.
 
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Look, I didn't think it should have even been a debate between Casey and Whitmer. That ship has sailed and Boyle wasn't available last night.

Chandler got blindsided and fumbled on his first drop back last night. Similar to the Newsome fumble last week, that wasn't his fault. Now we were 2-6, passing with under three minutes left to play. That is not Whitmer's fault, that was a coaching decision. He threw to pretty passes on the Garbage TD drive one to Foxx, one to Davis, and another that Abrams dropped.
 
Why do I get the nauseas feeling that Coach D.'s game plan is to make the team look so inept for recruiting purposes? Then he can walk into a talented kid's home proclaiming that, if the kid signs with the Huskies, he is almost guaranteed to start next season.:confused:
 
noeynox said:
Look, I didn't think it should have even been a debate between Casey and Whitmer. That ship has sailed and Boyle wasn't available last night.

Chandler got blindsided and fumbled on his first drop back last night. Similar to the Newsome fumble last week, that wasn't his fault. Now we were 2-6, passing with under three minutes left to play. That is not Whitmer's fault, that was a coaching decision. He threw to pretty passes on the Garbage TD drive one to Foxx, one to Davis, and another that Abrams dropped.
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Whitmer doesn't put points on the board. The offense doesn't score when he QBs.

On the blind side hit, he was completely unaware, he never looked left although the blitzer lined up on the line. Bad pre-snap read, poor pocket awareness. He contributes to his own demise.
 
Hoophound said:
Lorenzen could run for his life, he would be better with this OL. However, it was painful to watch him throw the ball.
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literally hurt me to watch him throw.....his mechanics were so bad I thought he was hurting himself when he threw....
 
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Palatine said:
Whitmer doesn't put points on the board. The offense doesn't score when he QBs.

On the blind side hit, he was completely unaware, he never looked left although the blitzer lined up on the line. Bad pre-snap read, poor pocket awareness. He contributes to his own demise.
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That offensive game plan wasn't meant to put up points. Like I said, I thought Diaco was smoking crack when he implied there was very little difference between Casey and Chandler but that debate no longer matters. Boyle couldn't go last night or didn't go or who knows, but when you're QB is only allowed to attempt 5 passes, in road game that isn't a hostile environment, I can't take issue with the kid. Last night was about the coaching plain and simple.
 
Whitmer and DeLorenzo as your primary offensive players will beat next to no one. Diaco has zero confidence in Whitmer, his game plan and play calling is an indication of that.

Skiblets said:
If people believe Whitmer is the reason we lost last night, I'm not quite sure what to say. Alternatively, who would you have played instead?
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Some of you (Palatine etc) are narcissistic Drama characters. I'm not sure why this is a debate. I can't think of how Whitmer could have impacted this game much. Ok ... Poor pre-snap read: he has what option?

It's all very disappointing. But it starts with as green an OLine as we've had since out pre FBS/D1 era.
 
coachcap said:
Why do I get the nauseas feeling that Coach D.'s game plan is to make the team look so inept for recruiting purposes? Then he can walk into a talented kid's home proclaiming that, if the kid signs with the Huskies, he is almost guaranteed to start next season.:confused:
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Lol! If he thinks that would work he's in for a shock when said recruits laugh in his face and ask why they'd want to play for a program that's shown nothing but ineptness in the past (assuming we go with a losing record this year) 4 years. I'm actually very concerned that this poor season may hurt our recruiting even more then the previous 3 years. A lot of shine will be off the new head coach if we go 2-10 or 3-9.
 
Hahaha, well played Pal. (Well, it would be if anyone actually was praising his garbage time drive). As I've said before I think we will move on to Boyle at some point. It would be nice if the OL can somehow approach competancy otherwise whoever is the QB will have a negligible shot at success, and would possibly be at a significant risk of major injury.
 
Whitmer exceeded Boyles season stats last night. Think about that next time anyone wants to speculate how much better this team would be with a different QB. All it would be is a fresh set of ribs to get pounded.
 
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SubbaBub said:
Whitmer exceeded Boyles season stats last night. Think about that next time anyone wants to speculate how much better this team would be with a different QB. All it would be is a fresh set of ribs to get pounded.
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And you think tat is relevant? When Boyle is 6-4 and can see over the line and has talent Whitmer could only dream about.

Boyle won't get better on the bench.

Whitmer won't get better, period.
 
Agree, why is Whitmer playing?

Palatine said:
And you think tat is relevant? When Boyle is 6-4 and can see over the line and has talent Whitmer could only dream about.

Boyle won't get better on the bench.

Whitmer won't get better, period.
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SubbaBub said:
Whitmer exceeded Boyles season stats last night. Think about that next time anyone wants to speculate how much better this team would be with a different QB. All it would be is a fresh set of ribs to get pounded.
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The stat comment is ridiculous since Boyle has barely played (he did throw two TD's that were dropped)

How do you know Boyle hasn't improved in his second year? For evaluation purposes Boyle has attempted nine passes this season and has completed 8 with two TD's.

I do agree the coaches are protecting him because he is their meal ticket for the next two years, but it would be wise to put him in at some point since they have already burned his redshirt again.
 
Kid is still an unknown, but will get the tar beat out of him and won't win us any more games this season than the kid playing. I'll say this for Diaco. His multiple QB plan is making more and more sense. Too bad we don't have capable backup linemen to debate.

It's amazing that the one kid out there "playing every play" gets the most grief. The beatings he is taking are worthy of an NFL suspension.
 
Just wish we had a coach that can straighten Boyle out... we need a QB that can create something out of nothing. Boyle has the physical ability to do so, Whitmer does not...
 
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metsfan2323 said:
The stat comment is ridiculous since Boyle has barely played (he did throw two TD's that were dropped)

How do you know Boyle hasn't improved in his second year? For evaluation purposes Boyle has attempted nine passes this season and has completed 8 with two TD's.

I do agree the coaches are protecting him because he is their meal ticket for the next two years, but it would be wise to put him in at some point since they have already burned his redshirt again.
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2nd time in a week a BY poster has created a new stat. Boyle has thrown 2 TD passes that were dropped! Classic homerism. Last time I checked the ball would need to be caught for. TD pass - but hey don't let facts get in the way of a good story.
 
Palatine said:
Since we're going to hear about his great TD drive, let's get it out of the way.

We didn't lose because Diaco kept Whitmer on a short lease. It wasn't the weather. A garbage time TD against a prevent defense doesn't show his potential.

It's well past time to time to move on. Whitmer simply does not have the talent or moxie to lead this football team. He has been given chance after chance, even handed the ball at the 19 yard line.

If we win any game he starts, it will be a major upset. The only real question is what on earth does Diaco see in Chandler?
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The irony of this post is that I haven't seen a single person praise Whitmer for the last drive. In fact, all I've heard is complaints about why we didn't open it up prior to that.

Of course, a few people actually understand that at he end of a game like that when you have a multiple score lead, you don't usually pressure the passer, you drop a bunch of guys into coverage and you try to "prevent" the big play.

Fact is, both Whitmers performance at USF and Boyle's stats against BSU are massive incompletes because they weren't given a chance to pass when it counted.
 
I really do not like Whitmer, but respect him if he continues to play behind this o line and get destroyed by us fans when he has no future in football and this team is in rebuild mode. He must love the game and university to go out there and get humiliated, so for that I respect him.
 
huskyinfl said:
I really do not like Whitmer, but respect him if he continues to play behind this o line and get destroyed by us fans when he has no future in football and this team is in rebuild mode. He must love the game and university to go out there and get humiliated, so for that I respect him.
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What you described is a competitor bro. If you played sports, you must have never played on a team that sucks. I did, and it may me go HAM. I remember splitting Ansonia's Steve Coughlin (who went on to Stanford) chin strap when I put the crown of my helmet into his chin as he released the ball and standing over him as he moaned. They destroyed us that day but he knew who I was when were shook hands afterwards. I remember butting heads all day and earning the respect of Crosby linebacker Tony Ortiz (he went to Nebraska and started). When you're terrible, if you're competitive you go harder. That is what I see in Whitmer. Most talented? No, but he puts it on the line every week knowing he is going to take a pounding and no I'm sure he doesn't look at it as being humiliated. Glad you respect him. He is not my favorite either as a player, but the kid, pound for pound maybe one of the toughest we have had at UConn.
 
It starts with the offensive line. And the line is exactly that offensive....to their own QB. They can't block anyone!!! So bad. Can't pass block, so they run, the defense doesn't need to worry about the pass so they stack for the run. The offense can't do anything.

Boyle would only be running for his life like Whitmer. The game the other night was brutal to watch and I am still drying out from all the rain.
 
noeynox said:
What you described is a competitor bro. If you played sports, you must have never played on a team that sucks. I did, and it may me go HAM. I remember splitting Ansonia's Steve Coughlin (who went on to Stanford) chin strap when I put the crown of my helmet into his chin as he released the ball and standing over him as he moaned. They destroyed us that day but he knew who I was when were shook hands afterwards. I remember butting heads all day and earning the respect of Crosby linebacker Tony Ortiz (he went to Nebraska and started). When you're terrible, if you're competitive you go harder. That is what I see in Whitmer. Most talented? No, but he puts it on the line every week knowing he is going to take a pounding and no I'm sure he doesn't look at it as being humiliated. Glad you respect him. He is not my favorite either as a player, but the kid, pound for pound maybe one of the toughest we have had at UConn.
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Well stated. He does have some traits that one won't find on the stat sheet. Kid doesn't give in. I'd be in a wheelchair by now playing behind that line.
 
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