Instead of watching the guy covering the ball tonight on defense - I watched the other perimeter defenders. When the opposing player makes a move with the ball the other perimeter players immediately react towards the player with the ball - going for a steal, trying to help, or more commonly just drifting closer to the play. The opposing guard then just kicks it over to the open man for a 3 ball. Our perimeter guys need to stay put more and stop over-reacting so much.
Observation on why we give up too many 3 pointers
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It seems like we clog up the interior and challenge teams to shoot 3s.
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We play help defense all over the freaking court even with AO and AD underneath to block shots and run out with flailing hopes of distracting a wide open 3
Happens every year and this year is burning us big time
Happens every year and this year is burning us big time
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This is exactly how I see it as well, I don't remember us playing perimeter defense like that in the past but it seems to be a common thing this year. There was a play where Gottlieb got on Bazz for going for a steal and leaving his man wide open for a 3 but he was actually rotating over to a shooter who had got open because Roscoe left his man to go help Giffey when the guy Giffey was guarding had barely even made a move. So in the end Bazz's man that he was guarding got an open look for 3 and knocked it down.
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It's clear that the defensive philosophy is to help on dribble penetration at all costs. I could be wrong but I don't remember us helping this much from all five positions in years past. We would funnel penetration towards our shot blockers near the basket, but I don't recall watching our guards standing in the lane on the weak side so much waiting to cut off dribble drives.
It's one thing for Lamb and Roscoe to over-help because they're long enough to still close out on shooters. But it's frustrating to watch Napier constantly in help mode on the weakside only to see his man get an open look that he can't contest.
It's one thing for Lamb and Roscoe to over-help because they're long enough to still close out on shooters. But it's frustrating to watch Napier constantly in help mode on the weakside only to see his man get an open look that he can't contest.
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I decided to watch guarding the 3 point line and saw the same thing, but other than a couple of times TO was late (who should not be out there playing the 3), it seems that Bazz is the biggest culprit and drifts 10 to 15 feet away from his man toward the foul line when the ball swings to the other side. Not only does he not guard his man when the ball is on the other side he also drifts in toward the basket and not only is it very hard for Bazz to get to his man if the ball swings, he has no shot at getting long rebounds. Uconn almost never gets long rebounds as all the players are below the foul line (not boxing out necessarily, just inside the foul line).
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I agree, and unfortunately they've been more than willing to do so. We over-commit and help far to much on interior defense, allowing teams to shoot uncontested from three. It's not just a matter of those particular free points, as the open threes help the other teams' shooters get into rhythm, and helps them to have the confidence to knock down contested 3's later in the game.
I'm a little tired of teams having their banner 3 pt shooting games against us. Force the teams to attempt to earn their points on the interior (a la Butler).
totally not true....roscoe's guy was not wide open for the three....but napier certainly left HIS man wide open....by 15 feet. his off the ball D is atrocious. he is the main reason we give up all the 3s. he's always trying to help when help isn't needed, and his man ends up wide open
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Shabazz left his man because Roscoe had rotated over to help Giffey when Giffey's man made one dribble, it wasn't needed. You've been on anti Bazz agenda since last year on the old board when you were ranting and raving about how you wished we had got one of the one and done guards so this is hopeless debating with you.
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I'd really love to see us attempt to play a game with minimal help defense, and see where that leads. As long as our bigs play honest defense and don't quickly rack up fouls, it could generate a refreshingly different outcome. It's not like Cincy had a Blair or a Sullinger on the inside that warranted the extra attention. Let's just play stifling man d where everyone sticks with their assignment. I'd much rather give up contested/possibly blocked two's instead of wide open threes (which help shooters get hot).
watch him on defense.....he's horrendous off the ball. he either passively goes under a screen and his man is wide open for a 3, or he wanders off trying to help others that don't need it and leaves his man wide open. it's a deficiency that even JC has noted several times this year.
Seems like that is what they should be doing, you actually WANT to force the dribble toward the shot blockers....but it isn't happening
He is not the only one. Lamb was backing up and at least 5-6 feet off of Kilpatrick when he hit the game winning 3. Terrible defense.
yes he did
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This is nothing new, It is Calhoun's defensive MO and considering he is one of the best defensive coaches ever, I will give him the benefit of the doubt. It can be maddening when teams are raining trey's but over the long haul it has proven to be a successful formula. Jim's defense is predicated on help and recover. He recruits superior, long athletes to implement the defense. For a textbook example of it at its best rewatch the NC game against Butler. it was a clinic on the help and recover model.
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neither one of the bigs is Hasheem so you can't really play 1 man zone.... we need to help and generally speaking, basketball-wise, it's better to help on penetration and negate closer shots than stick tight on your man and let someone else's guy go get easy layups by penetrating.... you generally give up a (hopefully contested to some degree) 3 over a layup or inside the paint shot where someone has beaten their man off the dribble.... that's help defense when you're playing man
if anything, we need to be better on the ball and not allow the dribble penetration to the middle so easily... esp lamb who can afford to play off and then contest pull ups with his reach
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1. Yes.
2. Having said that, Cincy, to its credit, made a lot of contested 3s last night. It was not the steady, open looks that we gave up that week in New Jersey.
Calhoun has played help and recover for 26 years!!!!!!!!!!!! It works Our FG % defense is traditionally the best in the BE and our 3 point FG% defense is usually around 30 %. Even with Hasheem and our other bigs we playerd help and recover. If we have a poor season it won't be because we are unable to guard the 3. H and R just did not work against Cincy.
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