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Message: [QUOTE="Steelerone, post: 3560249, member: 8313"] Thank you Plebe. When I played in high school in the fifties three quarters of the team worshiped at the feet of Notre Dame. I actually got into it a few times because I was loyal to the Pitt Panthers. At the time the only bowl game they ever played was in the 1925 Rose Bowl against Stanford. People took this as a holier than thou attitude but it was actually about money. As an independent they didn't have to share and when they finished with a good record they didn't have to take a chance on losing in a bowl game. They finally started to play in bowls in 1970. Why? Well, if there is ever a question about money the answer is always money. I knew a few of the players who played for Leahy. They didn't chip in for his retirement gift. [/QUOTE]