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Message: [QUOTE="Rooster C., post: 5333183, member: 10168"] Pitt is next......but in the meantime I was researching some things and came across these interesting (to me) little stats that I thought I would share..... N.Y. high school girls basketball : a selection of some players you may have heard of who are on the all time leading scorers list ( cumulative total points over a career). Points HG rank year Pro or not Name Basic Hisory/Info 1) 2552 pts #97 2023 TBD Mary Ashley Stevenson(Groot) Had a g ood first year at Purdue then transferred to Stanford where she is a solid player. 2) 2456 pts #16 2017 UNK Andra Espinoza-Hunter Brief stint at UCONN before moving on to Miss. St. where she struggled somewhat and then on to Seton Hall where she had two very productive seasons. No info on her post college. 3) 2367 pts #1 2012 WNBA Breanna Stewart Star player for UCONN for four seasons. Doubt I needed to put anything other than her name really. 4) 2320 pts #? 2006 WNBA Epiphanny Prince Official HG rankings didn't begin until 2008 but undoubtedly a Top 10 and notorious for a couple of key moments in her career including leaving college early to play professionally (overseas). Star for Rutgers for three seasons. 5) 2244 pts #16 2008 WNBA Shenise Johnson Pretty much put Miami on the map as a wbb program. One of only two D1 players to score 2000 pts, 1000 rebs, 500 assists, and 400 steals in a career (Nancy Lieberman of ODU 1976-80 being the other. 6) 2243 pts #16 2021 WNBA Sonia Citron Under utilized player at ND but her star power beginning to show itself in her rookie season of the WNBA 7) 2225 pts UR 2024 TBD ** This mystery player broke nearly every high school record of another well known player on this list who attended the same school and had the same hs coach. She also did her one better by taking her team to and winning a hs championship. She was red-shirted due to an injury her college freshman season - exactly the same thing that happened to her predecessor. 8) 2138 pts #56 2022 TBD Shay Ciezki She had two solid years at PSU before transferring to Indiana where she so far has continued her productivity. 9) 2135 pts #35 2014 WNBA Bianca Cuevas A decent player for SC who came in with A'ja Wilson as part of that amazing recruiting class and was an important contributor on the team that went on to win the NCAA championship in 2017 10) 2118 pts 1995 WNBA Chamique Holdsclaw TN star player. Included her on this list of more recent players purely for context and because she was an awesome player 11) 2018 pts #13 2024 TBD Kayleigh Heckel Had a decent freshman season at USC before transferring to UCONN where I suspect she'll develop in to yet another WNBA caliber player. Time will tell. 12) 1818 pts UR 2018 WNBA Madison Siegrist This is the only player on this list with less than 2000 pts in her hs career although her hs did retire her jersey recently. Villanova saw something in her that all the P5 programs missed and she went on to set the all time scoring record for the Big East conference and that includes A LOT of great UCONN players. Took her team to the Sweet 16 as a senior where they lost to a Miami team having a ridiculous tournament run. Drafted #3 overall by the WNBA a year ago and starting to show her skills playing alongside Paige Bueckers. I included her on here mostly because nearly everyone knows who she is at this point and because she's the most often cited example for why the Top 100 rankings are "meaningless". I completely disagree with that argument and I think there are many reasons why a player like her could have been overlooked by the P5 schools and not included in the rankings. There are of course other exceptions to this but very few and probably some day we'll see a Top 125 or 150 and she certainly would have been included. The short list above helps to demonstrate that. If you're not a dominant player at the hs level who can really score (2000 pts or more barring injury and not a true PG) I doubt any P5 coach is thinking you're going to be great at the next level. Villanova was a perfect fit for her and she was able to start and show her abilities from her freshman year (after recovering from an injury). I'm sure there was some schools trying to entice her to transfer after she led the country in ppg but she chose to stay at Villanova and I think that was a good decision for her even though it meant no realistic chance at a championship and not getting the exposure she would have received elsewhere. Have those who do the rankings and the many P5 coaches learned anything from this ? No, not really. Well, maybe one or two coaches did even if the polls didn't. Our Mystery Girl sitting at #7 [/QUOTE]

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