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Message: [QUOTE="upstater, post: 846370, member: 153"] There are a lot of public schools that were private a half-century ago. U Buffalo is another. There are many examples. But Pitt is a fully public school, state-subsidies for tuition, etc. It's public. The FOI thing is simply a peculiarity of PA. politics. In a similar way, PSU is also not beholden to such rules. But PSU is also a state university like Pitt. As for schools that have independent control, like Pitt, this is not unusual either. PSU too is independent from any state Higher Ed organization. So is UConn for that matter. Independent, though, does not mean private. [/QUOTE]