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Message: [QUOTE="upstater, post: 667376, member: 153"] New York is a big state. It's not like Connecticut with one flagship. UB is the size of UConn. And, despite mixed support for the SUNYs, they have always been much better supported than UConn. Academically it's doing just fine. Sports is another discussion altogether. And there are 4 R1 universities in the state of New York, that's acknowledged by everyone. Many states have more than one flagship, esp. big states. Florida and Florida St is one example. Texas and Texas A&M is another. The term "flagship" itself has several definitions, and is used in different ways. U. Cal. Berkeley calls itself the flagship since it is the first U. Cal., but the Chancellor of U. Cal. has also told Berkeley that they are not to use that term anymore since it is on par with the likes of UCLA and San Diego, etc. Some smaller states like North Dakota have labelled both state universities as flagships. New York state is too big to have a single flagship. The student population of such a school would make it the biggest school in the universe. As for political support, they just passed a $1 billion spending bill for UB2020. The athletics talk is hot air. UB will eventually downsize that. [/QUOTE]