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Message: [QUOTE="Rufus, post: 4729576, member: 7277"] Everyone who feels bad for Washington State and Oregon State, I look at it like this....... Those two schools benefited tremendously from the lack of major college sports in the Pacific Time Zone. They were in the PAC and PCC prior because there were no other plausible options for the conference to add teams. If those two schools were located in Ohio/Michigan/Indiana, they would have been charter members of the Mid-American Conference and likely still in the MAC today just like the Ohio Bobcats. The Cougars and Beavers are now going to the level they would have been at from day one had they not been located on the west coast. [/QUOTE]