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Message: [QUOTE="CAtlantic, post: 4346952, member: 11388"] college football fan@Genetics56 · 8h Throw out the old criteria of Big Ten expansion. The current version includes the following: academics and culture, student-athlete welfare, competition, and logistics, commitment to diversity, equity, and inclusion in sports; financial sustainability college football fan@Genetics56 · 9h based on that, the no chance in hell list includes from the Pac 12 includes Arizona, Colorado, Arizona State, Washington State, Oregon State, Utah. college football fan@Genetics56 · 9h For the Big 12, the only current member that would even have a remote chance is Kansas. TCU = no research, small student body, as an example. college football fan@Genetics56 · 9h For the ACC the only ones with a chance when using the criteria are Miami, Georgia Tech, Pitt, Duke, UNC, VA Tech, UVA and an extremely low chance for Clemson (less than 5% chance, IMO). college football fan@Genetics56 · 6h Top 20 TV markets through Big Ten and SEC teams only. FOX has full control of 8. ESPN has control of 5. FOX has the top 4. By adding Stanford, WA, OR..FOX would have full control of 11 vs 5. That would be a massive difference. college football fan@Genetics56 · 6h The reason TV markets still matter to some level is population centers. The more people there are in a city, the more people who should be watching games. The strategic mistake that the SEC has done is they didn't leave their normal footprint, besides Texas, in the last 20 yrs college football fan@Genetics56 · 6h Oklahoma + Texas is basically Texas since OU is close to Dallas. I forgot Missouri in my previous tweet. That was a dumb addition. Misouri hasn't added anything to the SEC. ..cont college football fan@Genetics56 · 6h It's possible ACC schools could get out of the GOR in the coming years, but let's assume they go to 2030 at least. Since 2000, the SEC will have only added 2 top 20 TV markets. The Big Ten since, 2000 has added 3..cont college football fan@Genetics56 · 6h If the Big Ten adds OR, WA, Stanford, they will have added 6 top TV markets. As I go over the data, the media has to be getting filled with a ton of intential misinformation being fed to them. Why t he f would the Big Ten not add the other 4 top 20 TV markets??? college football fan@Genetics56 · 6h Because if you add OR, Stanford/Cal, and WA to go with USC + UCLA, you have blocked out the SEC for any major market out west. Sure there is Phoenix and Denver, but those will be controlled by the big 12/pac...cont college football fan@Genetics56 · 6h FOX/Big Ten will then have forced/boxed in the SEC to be a regionalized conference for the rest of our lives. If the SEC wants to take an Oregon State or dumb sh like that, more power to them. But FOX/Big Ten is willing the market size battle = dollars. college football fan@Genetics56 · 6h Then you add in Notre Dame with a national audience. Eventually, you take a school in Virginia, Florida and North Carolina and then share the major markets with whatever happens out east when it's all done and over. Mulitple bidders and winners = more money too. college football fan@Genetics56 · 6h Thus, all FOX/Big Ten need to do is lock down Notre Dame, the three schools out west, then hang tight for several years until the states of Virginia, North Carolina, Georiga and Florida come available. FOX is then national in almost every major TV market in the country. college football fan@Genetics56 · 6h Yes, from a TV sub perspective this isn't going to make much of a difference since FOX is OTA and FS1 is available for anyone that wants it, but the point is more than that...it's a foot print and you get more people watching your channels = more ad revenue. college football fan@Genetics56 · 6h Thus, people can say the ESPN and SEC TV deal is sexy and will pay a sh load of money, and it will, but it will be 10 years of now further growth than what is already in the contracts. Why the SEC was stupid to go all in with one network we will never know. It's dumb. MH ver3@MH ver3 · 3h Pac12 will be filing an injunction against USC and UCLA on Monday to begin the process of withholding their tv earning from now until August of 2024. MH ver3@MH ver3 · 3h This would equate to roughly a $70m dollar “exit fee” for each school leaving. This is part of why the 6 schools B12 has been in talks with are waiting for the exclusive negotiation window to end before jumping. Every week equals $675k in tv money MH ver3@MH ver3 · 3h Pac12 can also legally suspend or terminate USC and UCLA from the conference now if they so choose-per chapter 2 section 4 of the bylaws MH ver3@MH ver3 · 3h I’m getting all this Pac12 info from a new source that is feeding me info through dms here-I’m trying to corroborate it all by reading the bylaws myself but it’s late and that’s a lot of reading MH ver3@MH ver3 · 3h So I reached out to my main source and his response is slightly different than what my Pac12 source is saying. MH ver3@MH ver3 · 3h My main source said that it’s the Pac12 network monies that are forfeited which is only 33% of the total monies that are distributed to the schools. So if he’s correct that would be a much smaller financial impact on schools leaving. MH ver3@MH ver3 · 3h But he’s saying Pac12 absolutely can terminate or suspend the schools leaving, dropping them off the schedules and keeping those schools from generating revenue. But…. MH ver3@MH ver3 · 3h …they would do so at the expense of the entire conference because the networks could then withhold a certain percentage of monies based on what those schools games are worth. MH ver3@MH ver3 · 3h So depending on which source is correct on this it’s either a $24m or $70m “exit fee” for schools leaving. MH ver3@MH ver3 · 2h Even if the exit cost is $24m then if 8 total schools leave that’s almost $200m for the remaining four to split for a nice one time payday. Consolation prize? [MEDIA=twitter]1545975844169871360[/MEDIA] [/QUOTE]

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