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Message: [QUOTE="DarthGrumpy, post: 2961773, member: 2141"] Its a good point. A while back, someone told me that there's also a division between medical dollars used for actual procedures, say open heard surgery, versus dollars spend on pharma and medical sciences. I do not know the numbers; but, with Merck, J&J, BMS, Celgene, etc. all in Rutgers' backyard, I have to assume there is a lot of money spend on health sciences at Rutgers. As for Rutgers itself, Rutgers was established as a private college back in Colonial days and was later bailed out of bankruptcy by the State of New Jersey and emerged as a strange pubic-private university that in time became the state's flagship land-grand university. UMDNJ was established by the state entirely separate from Rutgers; but, the two grew closer over time before the state finally merged then a few years back. [/QUOTE]