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Message: [QUOTE="CoastAtlantic, post: 2953884, member: 5174"] [USER=1286343007]Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/1072119376302755840']11h11 hours ago[/URL] I would like to know how many years AAC Commish Aresco is asking for in the GOR? If I was Houston, Cincinnati, UCF or USF I would not sign anything that takes be further than 2025. For UCONN it gets complicated with Big East possibilities for MBB/WBB. [USER=1286343007]Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/1072121071900508160']11h11 hours ago[/URL] Some people are not going to like this tweet. Aresco’s attempt to get AAC schools to sign GOR in return for those particular schools to receive bit more $ is more about giving Aresco more leverage to deal with Big 12 as a whole if/when Big 12 gets poached than its about B12 Exp. [USER=1286343007]Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/1072123004505735168']11h11 hours ago[/URL] People are talking. Gaining Leverage is everything. Aresco trying to establish future stability. Bowlsby and 5-6 other Big 12 schools will be doing the same shortly..requesting future stability from OU/UT. Hang on. Bumpy ride ahead. [USER=42735825]Frank the Tank‏ @frankthetank111[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/frankthetank111/status/1072137962459185152']10h10 hours ago[/URL] Frank the Tank Retweeted Pat Forde AAC trying to seek a grant of rights agreement is a classic prisoner’s dilemma scenario. Individual schools have an interest in not accepting it even though the league overall would benefit from everyone cooperating. [USER=42735825]Frank the Tank‏ @frankthetank111[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/frankthetank111/status/1072211753302409218']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Frank the Tank Retweeted Joe Ho Ho Hovies Key part of the AAC grant of rights story: there would be unequal revenue sharing in favor of UCF, USF, Cincinnati, Memphis and Houston since they are the most likely Power 5 expansion targets. (Note that UConn isn't on that list, which is probably why there's Big East talk.) [USER=1286343007]Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/1072213452721192962']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Greg Flugaur Retweeted John Ourand [URL='https://post original url/YF0wKZSquk']https://mobile.twitter.com/Ourand_SBJ/status/1072208578252034048 …[/URL] FS1 overtakes ESPN2 As BTM told us 9 days ago FOX Sports is extremely happy with Big Ten Content. You should expect ruthless aggression. [URL='https://twitter.com/hashtag/marksilverman?src=hash'][S]#[/S][B]marksilverman[/B][/URL] [USER=1014233833]Doug‏ @NebGradDubDub[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/NebGradDubDub/status/1072233983348523013']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Happens the same year the B10 content comes on board. Not shocking [USER=1286343007]Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/1072234181806170112']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Replying to [USER=1014233833]@NebGradDubDub[/USER] It took 2 years..but yes. [USER=1286343007]Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/1072216014602072064']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Oooh boy... [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuFGyHjW4AA-2Uz.jpg[/IMG] [USER=1286343007]Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/1072228647539478528']4h4 hours ago[/URL] I don’t see Danny White signing any GOR with the American Athletic Conference. No UCF, no AAC GOR. Take a little less Conference Media $ than it highest potential earnings (GOR inclusion) in exchange to keep it’s options (keep freedom) open is the prudent move for UCF. [USER=352102680]Erich Keithly‏ @ekeithly_1[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/ekeithly_1/status/1072232437000757248']3h3 hours ago[/URL] The problem is how long will UCF be relevent...USF faded, Boise St. is fading... UCF probably wont be able to keep its pace [USER=1286343007]Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/1072233987517702146']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Replying to [USER=352102680]@ekeithly_1[/USER] UCF, unlike Boise State, is home to a big market. Unlike USF it comes in 1st in its big market (Orlando) [USER=161769109]#HtownTakeover‏ @sjcHTX[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/sjcHTX/status/1072255513608491008']2h2 hours ago[/URL] I disagree. Maximize your earning potential now. Guaranteed $ > hypotheticals. A GOR sets the exit fee + buyout. Top AAC schools can elect to eat that cost in future realignment much like other expansion teams have done in past. [USER=1286343007]Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/1072259802963808256']2h2 hours ago[/URL] Replying to [USER=161769109]@sjcHTX[/USER] Big misconception that GOR = Exit Fee. It does not. Maryland ate Exit Fee....not ACC GOR for it wasn’t in place at the time. UCF should not sign GOR...too expensive of meal. [USER=1323511196]Mark Kochenderfer‏ @MarkKochenderfe[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/MarkKochenderfe/status/1072278147096342528']30m30 minutes ago[/URL] Even if you quadruple the AAC contract you’re still looking at 8 million per school. With unequal sharing say the top teams get 12 million/yr. To put that in perspective pay out for the T1 and T2 content for big 12 was 36 million last year per team. That is a vast difference. [USER=1286343007]Greg Flugaur‏ @flugempire[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/1072284395355152384']5m5 minutes ago[/URL] Replying to [USER=1323511196]@MarkKochenderfe[/USER] [USER=42735825]@frankthetank111[/USER] I suppose the devil is in the details but I can’t imagine any top valued AAC schools would sign AAC GOR. It would be interesting to see the difference, the gap Aresco is presenting between AAC GOR included Media deal for top AAC schools vs deal that does not include GOR. [USER=1014233833]Doug‏ @NebGradDubDub[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/NebGradDubDub/status/1072233585187409922']3h3 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][S]@[/S][B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] hmm......why would AAC need a grant of rights? [USER=386000905]Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/1072234041347313665']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Replying to [USER=1014233833]@NebGradDubDub[/USER] [USER=24191521]@joeovies[/USER] To try get more money out of ESPN. They say it openly. Its an attempt to be more attractive. [USER=386000905]Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/1072234566927220736']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Replying to [USER=1323511196]@MarkKochenderfe[/USER] [USER=859931443337809920]@JuliusJ85224635[/USER] Look, its simple. ESPN & Fox are competitors. They are not going to break up the Big 12 because doing so would not only cause them to pay more but one or the other would have a huge advantage. [USER=1323511196]Mark Kochenderfer‏ @MarkKochenderfe[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/MarkKochenderfe/status/1072235298208301056']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Replying to [USER=386000905]@theDudeofWV[/USER] [USER=859931443337809920]@JuliusJ85224635[/USER] Detente. What do you think of the AAC Trying to sign GO R. I think it reaffirms the fact that there may be no movement in the near future. [USER=386000905]Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/1072236345727295488']3h3 hours ago[/URL] ESPN & Fox made it clear to the B12 that if they expand with G5 schools they could forget about a new TV deal. An AAC GoR is a show pony only. AAC says openly its to make us more attractive to try & get a better deal. [USER=1323511196]Mark Kochenderfer‏ @MarkKochenderfe[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/MarkKochenderfe/status/1072236898205229058']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Before the old Big East blew up wasn’t there talk about a gor ? [USER=386000905]Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/1072237071950118912']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Yes. [USER=386000905]Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/1072234969290997760']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Replying to [USER=1323511196]@MarkKochenderfe[/USER] [USER=859931443337809920]@JuliusJ85224635[/USER] I wish there was a forum to discuss the many issues at play. Like the Alston class action lawsuit that could have half the ACC drop out of P5 football. [USER=386000905]Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/1072235764682055680']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Replying to [USER=1323511196]@MarkKochenderfe[/USER] [USER=859931443337809920]@JuliusJ85224635[/USER] 99% of the people I respond to about expansion come from the standpoint of a fan with an extremely limited understanding of the issues at play. They have no idea of the history or what motivates expansion. The old model that caused B1G & SEC expansion is dead. [USER=386000905]Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/1072236678956355586']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Replying to [USER=1323511196]@MarkKochenderfe[/USER] [USER=859931443337809920]@JuliusJ85224635[/USER] Duke, Wake, Pitt, BC and GT will drop P5 football if the NCAA loses the Alston law suit. [USER=1042649088]Seanbo Sengo‏ @SeanboSengo[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/SeanboSengo/status/1072236794777927681']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Why pay for 2 when you can pay for all 10 [USER=386000905]Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/1072237368898392069']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Replying to [USER=1042649088]@SeanboSengo[/USER] Think diminishing returns... pay more for less. [USER=386000905]Christopher Lambert‏ @theDudeofWV[/USER] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/1072238835646500864']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Replying to [USER=1323511196]@MarkKochenderfe[/USER] [USER=859931443337809920]@JuliusJ85224635[/USER] AAC should see revenue jump from $2M per school per year to as much as $8M. WVU’s most profitable year in the BE was $9.5M. But AAC will not have equal revenue sharing. [/QUOTE]

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