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Message: [QUOTE="CoastAtlantic, post: 2186169, member: 5174"] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B]‏ @flugempire[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/861226743549526016']14h14 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://post original url/RfPR15pxm7']http://m.newsok.com/ou-wants-the-big-12-to-work/article/5548249 …[/URL] Good read, but Berry Tramel is a bit behind the curve, ...not on how OU is thinking... ..but behind B1G thinking. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B]‏ @flugempire[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/861227365149671424']14h14 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://post original url/RfPR15pxm7']http://m.newsok.com/ou-wants-the-big-12-to-work/article/5548249 …[/URL] OU is not a "longshot" to become part of B1G due to academics/research. B1G will be one of OU suitors in 24 [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B]‏ @flugempire[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/861228187405123584']14h14 hours ago[/URL] Berry Tramel also devalues Conf Networks because of changes in TV/Media. This is also very naive. Streaming on Conf Networks = REV stream [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B]‏ @flugempire[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/861228820883525632']14h14 hours ago[/URL] OU/KU are thirsting for more academic/research/athletic exposure. "Exposure" is the word always missing from B12 writers/bloggers articles. [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke'][B]Kyle Goeke[/B]‏ @kylegoeke[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke/status/860636075345235969']May 5[/URL] I think OU, Texas and Kansas for sure are a combo of B1G and SEC. Who is the fourth most attractive school? Who also strikes gold? [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Khristofór Lambert[/B]‏ @theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/860999821842317312']May 6[/URL] BS. [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke'][B]Kyle Goeke[/B]‏ @kylegoeke[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke/status/861000275288633344']May 6[/URL] It's an opinion buddy. Btw, in that scenario, I'm assuming your West Virginia is scooped up by the ACC anyway. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Khristofór Lambert[/B]‏ @theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/861002585599352833']May 6[/URL] Boren campaigned for the GoR. So how would that play out in court? [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke'][B]Kyle Goeke[/B]‏ @kylegoeke[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke/status/861002903447851008']May 6[/URL] No scenario where Texas, OU, Kansas West Virginia, and others buy their way out to go to Power 4? Sorry I'm not a lawyer. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Khristofór Lambert[/B]‏ @theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/861004123923263489']May 6[/URL] Not really. The price is already set and it's far too high. Best just to wait it out. [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke'][B]Kyle Goeke[/B]‏ @kylegoeke[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke/status/861004370615422976']May 6[/URL] So West Virginia will still be playing a conference game in west Texas in 2024? Gross. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Khristofór Lambert[/B]‏ @theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/861005573877354498']May 6[/URL] The one caveat is this. If the ACC network is just digital then the Big 12 might just go ahead with plans to extend GoR only. [URL='https://twitter.com/DocBunyan'][B]DocBunyan[/B]‏ @DocBunyan[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/DocBunyan/status/861089340994330624']23h23 hours ago[/URL] B12 ain't extending squat when OU wants out. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Khristofór Lambert[/B]‏ @theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/861287971298869249']10h10 hours ago[/URL] B1G passed on OU. OU doesn't want P12 or ACC. SEC doesn't want or need OKST. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush'][B]Great Americans[/B]‏ @Expansion_Crush[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush/status/861364325168140288']5h5 hours ago[/URL] What's keeping the B12 viable is because Texas wants it to be viable. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B]‏ @flugempire[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/861365235680235521']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Replying to [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush']@Expansion_Crush[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] and B1G never passed on OU. [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke'][B]Kyle Goeke[/B]‏ @kylegoeke[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke/status/861365478433988608']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Replying to [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@flugempire[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush']@Expansion_Crush[/URL] and I would agree with this. If they took Nebraska and Rutgers, they'd absolutely welcome OU. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Khristofór Lambert[/B]‏ @theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/861365733250543616']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Think about how good UT has it in the B12. They will always be top 5 in $. They rarely have to travel outside of Texas. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush'][B]Great Americans[/B]‏ @Expansion_Crush[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush/status/861366150340521986']5h5 hours ago[/URL] But what if Oklahoma gets tired of being second fiddle? [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Khristofór Lambert[/B]‏ @theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/861366788726169600']5h5 hours ago[/URL] The SEC would take OU but not OKST. Plus Stoops doesn't want OU in the SEC for obvious reasons. [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke'][B]Kyle Goeke[/B]‏ @kylegoeke[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke/status/861367213378482176']5h5 hours ago[/URL] I'm fascinated by who the sec would want after OU? NC State? Texas? Kansas? [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Khristofór Lambert[/B]‏ @theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/861367989974814721']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Culture is important to the SEC too. KU isn't a SEC culture. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush'][B]Great Americans[/B]‏ @Expansion_Crush[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush/status/861368328987836417']5h5 hours ago[/URL] I would have said that about Missouri 6 years ago [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke'][B]Kyle Goeke[/B]‏ @kylegoeke[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke/status/861368463205519360']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Yes culture can change [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Khristofór Lambert[/B]‏ @theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/861368720932917249']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Wait. The SEC regrets adding Mizzou over WVU. One reason is Mizzou isn't a cultural fit for the SEC. [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke'][B]Kyle Goeke[/B]‏ @kylegoeke[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke/status/861368953704206336']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Agree to disagree on that one. You talk about tv markets. No tv markets like St. Louis or KC in West Virginia. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Khristofór Lambert[/B]‏ @theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/861369155840331776']5h5 hours ago[/URL] WV is in the Pitt market. [URL="http://www.knoxnews.com/story/sports/columnists/university-of-tennessee/john-adams/2016/11/15/sec-needs-to-swap-missouri-for-west-virginia/93767286/"]John Adams: SEC needs to swap Missouri for West Virginia[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke'][B]Kyle Goeke[/B]‏ @kylegoeke[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke/status/861369399848185856']5h5 hours ago[/URL] That's one large market smaller than St. Louis and KC. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B]‏ @flugempire[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/861371610716045313']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Replying to [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke']@kylegoeke[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] and ACC already into DC with VA Tech(Virginia somewhat)..ACC already into Pittsburgh, WVU doesn't give much added juice to ACCN regards to Media [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush'][B]Great Americans[/B]‏ @Expansion_Crush[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush/status/861369414264008706']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Missouri is a different beast [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]hristofór Lambert[/B]‏ @theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/861370310251229185']5h5 hours ago[/URL] I dissagree. Missouri isn't a state that worships football. WV is.. [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke'][B]Kyle Goeke[/B]‏ @kylegoeke[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/kylegoeke/status/861371132959739905']5h5 hours ago[/URL] At the end of the day, Missouri has the tv viewers and geography against WV. WV would be on another island in the SEC. Not that you'd care [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Khristofór Lambert[/B]‏ @theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/861372461866254340']5h5 hours ago[/URL] 2020 is the key year. If the B12 agrees to let WVU leave for the ACC & ESPN/Fox let the B12 replace WVU with UC we know the B12 is done. [URL='https://twitter.com/JuliusJ85224635'][B]Julius Johnson[/B]‏ @JuliusJ85224635[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/JuliusJ85224635/status/861374470417788929']5h5 hours ago[/URL] I'm confused. Why would FOX, ESPN let WVU go to ACC? I would enjoy this if it took place but why would other Big 12 universities approve? [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B]‏ @flugempire[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/861379549598187520']4h4 hours ago[/URL] Replying to [URL='https://twitter.com/JuliusJ85224635']@JuliusJ85224635[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] and So B12 is going to let WVU go to ACC and in return become DOA under Dude's logic...and that's what B12 wants? No logic in any of this... [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B]‏ @flugempire[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/861380998839316484']4h4 hours ago[/URL] Replying to [URL='https://twitter.com/JuliusJ85224635']@JuliusJ85224635[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] and So Dude is saying B12 could be willing to switch WVU for UC to save a few million in scraps due to Full membership payout vs Part? Crazy. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B]‏ @flugempire[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/861381526080106496']4h4 hours ago[/URL] Replying to [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@flugempire[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/JuliusJ85224635']@JuliusJ85224635[/URL] and Welp...so much for Dude's argument of last 5 years that is was best for WVU to be in B12 rather than ACC. Dude has switched positions again ME: Just an update...yep, they're still going at each other. [/QUOTE]

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