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Message: [QUOTE="upstater, post: 2035914, member: 153"] There are problems with these East Coast schools, and mainly it is a question of underperformance. But Penn., New Jersey, Maryland, Virginia and the Carolinas have a lot of football talent. They are regularly pilfered. In Virginia's case, they are just not going to allow bad students to play for them. Maryland is a mess, they should be doing much better. In this scenario, Pitt and PSU get placed in another division so they may suck out all that Penn. talent. All I'm saying is that given the talent in that northeast region, teams like North Carolina, Maryland, Virginia Tech, should be doing a helluva lot better. These teams should be on par with Clemson, but they keep stepping on their you-know-whats. [/QUOTE]