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Message: [QUOTE="06029, post: 1825241, member: 1548"] Another season like this year and ND may be in the ACC for FB soon. They are playing just for a "bowl" now. Not a playoff bowl, not a primo New Years Day or NY Eve bowl but just a "bowl". No Orange bowl, and no Orlando bowl because with 3 losses and probably at least 1 or 2 more on the schedule, they will be at least 2 games behind the #2 and probably the #3ACC team (FSU, Ville, Clemson, UNC and VT all have very good chances to be 2 games up on ND at season end W/L). No chance to move up in the ACC standings even though they play 5 of them this year since since they don't belong to the conference. Cue the ND posters to tell me I am wrong. [/QUOTE]