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Message: [QUOTE="don356, post: 1765006, member: 5634"] You're missing the point, you do not need to deliver all of Ohio, it's a big state with one P5 school right now in sports. Indiana has 3, Michigan 2, and when you're a school of 40k students, the largest employer in the city and have P&G, Kroger's and Macy's about 10 minutes from campus you're not going to be treated as an also ran. I've done business in Cincinnati and Columbus and i would much rather be in Cincinnati. Trying to compare any schools to the Texas, Osu's and Oklahoma's of the world is not the benchmark. Look around at the p5, it's not all "state" delivering schools. [/QUOTE]