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Message: [QUOTE="CoastAtlantic, post: 1692811, member: 5174"] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730806820911087616']2h2 hours ago[/URL] Wow...how far has Syracuse fallen? [URL='https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN'][B]Brett McMurphyVerified account[/B]‏@McMurphyESPN[/URL] John Swofford on report that ESPN must pay ACC $45 million if ACC Network not in place by July: “I’m not going to comment on that" [URL='https://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN'][B]Chuck Carlton[/B] ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN/status/730811257113088000']2h2 hours ago[/URL] Chuck Carlton Retweeted Brett McMurphy Hmmmm. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730811496704397312']2h2 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN']@ChuckCarltonDMN[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN']@McMurphyESPN[/URL] Is that a one time payment or annual? [URL='https://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN'][B]Chuck Carlton[/B] ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN/status/730812456604340224']2h2 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] Here's one account offering more detail on the payment. [URL="http://awfulannouncing.com/2016/is-it-too-late-for-the-acc-to-start-its-own-tv-network.html"]Is it too late for the ACC to start its own TV network?[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730812551047593984']2h2 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN']@ChuckCarltonDMN[/URL] Thanks... [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730812983023112192']2h2 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN']@ChuckCarltonDMN[/URL] The wording is odd. When the ACC GoR was announced I recall this being referred to as a one time payment. [URL='https://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN'][B]Chuck Carlton[/B] ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN/status/730813222488399872']2h2 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] If memory serves, that was my understanding as well. Can't believe it's an annual payment. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]hristopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730821323547660288']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN']@ChuckCarltonDMN[/URL] Well, the ACC people say the $45m is an annual increase. A friend at ESPN says it's a one time payment. [URL='https://twitter.com/Crusty1000'][B]Chris Alan[/B] ‏@Crusty1000 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Crusty1000/status/730813812207583232']2h2 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN']@ChuckCarltonDMN[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] Super contractual error if so [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730817375302455296']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN']@ChuckCarltonDMN[/URL] My ACC friends claim its annual. But I believe its a payment for not exercising an option. A one time payment. [URL='https://twitter.com/BlatantHomerism'][B]Allen Kenney[/B] ‏@BlatantHomerism [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BlatantHomerism/status/730818604036456448']1h1 hour ago[/URL] Allen Kenney Retweeted Brett McMurphy is this a one-time payment, or is it annual? [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BlatantHomerism']@BlatantHomerism[/URL] Both - one time and annual - depending on who you ask. ACC people believe its annual. Everyone else once. [URL='https://twitter.com/MisterLegg'][B]Tim Legg[/B] ‏@MisterLegg [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MisterLegg/status/730823903963021312']58m58 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BlatantHomerism']@BlatantHomerism[/URL] If it is an annual payment, that could be game, set, match. Very bad news for the Big 12's survival chances. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730825008889597952']54m54 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MisterLegg']@MisterLegg[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BlatantHomerism']@BlatantHomerism[/URL] No network for the ACC means the same thing as it does for the Big 12. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730828618448969728']41m41 minutes ago[/URL] My take on expansion... [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730829130711871488']39m39 minutes ago[/URL] Okay... so add my opinion to the host of voices chirping about the Big 12: [URL="http://landgrantgauntlet.com/2016/05/12/the-big-12-may-have-their-final-four-but-expansion-hinges-on-texas-the-acc/"]The Big 12 May Have Their Final Four, But Expansion Hinges On Texas & The ACC[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730829496933330944']37m37 minutes ago[/URL] Thanks to [URL='https://twitter.com/the_LGG']@the_LGG[/URL] for giving my take on the Big 12 a place to reside. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730830624274190336']33m33 minutes ago[/URL] Dollars signs open more eyes than percentage points. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730831091137953792']31m31 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/louciaccia']@louciaccia[/URL] Don't look now... [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730831553878708224']29m29 minutes ago[/URL] I really believe David Boren is trying to solidify the Big 12 for the long term. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730831683973488640']28m28 minutes ago[/URL] What Boren and Gee have done, if nothing else, is force Texas to show its cards concerning the Big 12's future. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730831918997049345']28m28 minutes ago[/URL] The potential money on the table for a Big 12 network is enough to make the pain of the LHN go away for Texas. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730832026450952193']27m27 minutes ago[/URL] I'm told the Big 12 might be willing to pay Texas more than $15M a year. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730832201240186881']26m26 minutes ago[/URL] If Texas doesn't agree to a network then at least the others know where they stand and can start planning. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730832321339920389']26m26 minutes ago[/URL] And if some day the Big 12 fails for lack of a network then we will know who to blame. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730832551162593280']25m25 minutes ago[/URL] It's time for Texas to either commit to the Big 12 by way of a network or admit they plan something else post GoR. [URL='https://twitter.com/jay_256'][B]TigerBronco[/B] ‏@jay_256 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/jay_256/status/730832090824998912']29m29 minutes ago[/URL] TigerBronco Retweeted Christopher Lambert Exactly why FedEx could be the deciding factor in expansion. Diamonds can satisfy a spoiled girl just as $ can Texas [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730832679437008896']27m27 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/jay_256']@jay_256[/URL] Repeat after me... there has to be a big 12 to become a member of the big 12. [URL='https://twitter.com/jay_256'][B]TigerBronco[/B] ‏@jay_256 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/jay_256/status/730832811234463744']27m27 minutes ago[/URL] TigerBronco Retweeted Christopher Lambert [URL='https://twitter.com/C_Austin_Cox']@C_Austin_Cox[/URL] is who you should be getting your info from. He has direct connections to Cincinnati & Dallas, B12 HQ. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/jay_256']@jay_256[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/C_Austin_Cox']@C_Austin_Cox[/URL] Really? [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730833175954489344']26m26 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/jay_256']@jay_256[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/C_Austin_Cox']@C_Austin_Cox[/URL] I trust who I talk to. I go with what they say. Sorry. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730835532545175554']18m18 minutes ago[/URL] So you like having fun with numbers? Take the Big 12's estimated network worth and play with them. What's the minimum profit necessary? [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730836337801187333']14m14 minutes ago[/URL] UC is still 304 miles away from Touchdown City. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730836760725426177']13m13 minutes ago[/URL] It warms my heart to see FSU pop up in Big 12 discussions again but let's be serious. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730836898839732227']13m13 minutes ago[/URL] For FSU to even consider the Big 12 again it would have to have a network and a extension of the GoR. [URL='https://twitter.com/dal2077'][B]David Longhofer[/B] ‏@dal2077 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/dal2077/status/730834054581391360']24m24 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/the_LGG']@the_LGG[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] Texas Tech and TCU need to exhibit some balls & make a decision that's good for ALL of the conference. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730834834227089408']21m21 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/dal2077']@dal2077[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/the_LGG']@the_LGG[/URL] Both have their reasons. Tech needs to hitch their wagon to Bevo. TCU owes its B12 membership to Texas. [URL='https://twitter.com/dal2077'][B]David Longhofer[/B] ‏@dal2077 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/dal2077/status/730836707868741632']13m13 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/the_LGG']@the_LGG[/URL] Actually TCU owes their loyalty to the entire conference. Without ALL our votes TCU is in the AAC. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/dal2077']@dal2077[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/the_LGG']@the_LGG[/URL] TCU owes their Big 12 membership to Texas. As does WVU but WVU also had ESPN on their side. [URL='https://twitter.com/hmpersinger3'][B]Mo Persinger[/B] ‏@hmpersinger3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/hmpersinger3/status/730838042924048384']9m9 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] $8 million per team except for UT which will get $16 million [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]hristopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/hmpersinger3']@hmpersinger3[/URL] Works for me. [URL='https://twitter.com/hmpersinger3'][B]Mo Persinger[/B] ‏@hmpersinger3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/hmpersinger3/status/730838516897193984']7m7 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] there's no way you can get there by adding Memphis, UC, UCF, Houston UConn or BYU [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730838820522999808']6m6 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/hmpersinger3']@hmpersinger3[/URL] Who the Big 12 adds doesn't matter I was told. [URL='https://twitter.com/hmpersinger3'][B]Mo Persinger[/B] ‏@hmpersinger3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/hmpersinger3/status/730838913703497729']7m7 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] and you believe that? Money just falls from the sky? [URL='https://twitter.com/hmpersinger3'][B]Mo Persinger[/B] ‏@hmpersinger3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/hmpersinger3/status/730839399135514624']4m4 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] why not add Marshall then? I'll bet they'd take a half or quarter share. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730839504559443968']4m4 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/hmpersinger3']@hmpersinger3[/URL] $%$[URL='https://twitter.com/hashtag/W?src=hash']#W[/URL]%@#$%@#$%@ [URL='https://twitter.com/hmpersinger3'][B]Mo Persinger[/B] ‏@hmpersinger3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/hmpersinger3/status/730840060031983617']2m2 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] none of our current options is any better quality than Marshall [URL='https://twitter.com/hmpersinger3'][B]Mo Persinger[/B] ‏@hmpersinger3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/hmpersinger3/status/730839874626945024']3m3 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] oh so it does matter then? [URL='https://twitter.com/hmpersinger3'][B]Mo Persinger[/B] ‏@hmpersinger3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/hmpersinger3/status/730839067814846464']7m7 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] bubbles always burst and the cable sports one is about to go [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730839344622280706']6m6 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/hmpersinger3']@hmpersinger3[/URL] New data says that's not true. [URL='https://twitter.com/UConn6thBorough'][B]Storrs South[/B] ‏@UConn6thBorough [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UConn6thBorough/status/730837238662189057']15m15 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] great article Chris [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UConn6thBorough']@UConn6thBorough[/URL] Thanks... Memphis people don't like it. [URL='https://twitter.com/UConn6thBorough'][B]Storrs South[/B] ‏@UConn6thBorough [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UConn6thBorough/status/730838905449254913']8m8 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] people only like to hear what they want to hear. They want you to kiss the Memphis and FedEx ring. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/730839258538360832']7m7 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UConn6thBorough']@UConn6thBorough[/URL] Here's what I think. I think FedEx might have hurt Memphis. Just as Houston's season hurt them (and being in Texas). [/QUOTE]

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