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Message: [QUOTE="CoastAtlantic, post: 1688334, member: 5174"] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/729096473711906816']42m42 minutes ago[/URL] Complicated issues have complicated factors that may seem contradictory but are in really parallel actions that have yet to converge [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/729096978710335488']40m40 minutes ago[/URL] Meaning the B12's expansion process continues in the hopes that Texas will agree to a network thus making expansion a necessity. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/729097160923488257']39m39 minutes ago[/URL] Currently everyone who supports expansion understands a network is necessary to make it feasible. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/729097430126493696']39m39 minutes ago[/URL] So the process continues until Texas gives a definitive answer on the network (and by default expansion). [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/729097728844832770']38m38 minutes ago[/URL] Texas may be receptive to the BHV report. The data may convince Texas that giving up LHN is the right move - or not. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/729097907790565377']37m37 minutes ago[/URL] But the process cannot stop as long as Texas is open to options. [URL='https://twitter.com/BaylorFight'][B]david_gibson[/B] ‏@BaylorFight [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BaylorFight/status/729103999241052160']13m13 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] hasn't Texas already spoken? "We'll leave before we get rid of LHN." [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/729105231624187905']8m8 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BaylorFight']@BaylorFight[/URL] Hope is not certainty. But until the issue has been put to bed hope remains. [URL='https://twitter.com/Stormy0891'][B]Thunder Dome[/B] ‏@Stormy0891 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Stormy0891/status/729099957223874560']29m29 minutes ago[/URL][URL='https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3Aa35adb837e057d3b']Highland, UT[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] now that is a convoluted statement, I'm dizzy [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/729105575427121152']7m7 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Stormy0891']@Stormy0891[/URL] Until Texas says no & expansion is voted down those in the Big 12 who favor expansion continue to prepare for expansion. ME: Hmmm...between him and the Flug some realism setting in about the direction of the B12. Meanwhile... [URL='https://twitter.com/randywatts7'][B]Randy Watts[/B] ‏@randywatts7 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/randywatts7/status/728915785704333312']13h13 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal']@Bluevodreal[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/morrison1124']@morrison1124[/URL] still put Big10 expansion at 60%? [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal'][B]Bluevod[/B]‏@Bluevodreal[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/randywatts7']@randywatts7[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/morrison1124']@morrison1124[/URL] maybe a tad higher. To much smoke now. I think we know more after the hailmary meeting of ACC this month. [URL='https://twitter.com/Genetics56'][B]Genetics56[/B] ‏@Genetics56 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Genetics56/status/728958757179379712']10h10 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal']@Bluevodreal[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/randywatts7']@randywatts7[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/morrison1124']@morrison1124[/URL] Which grouping is more appealing GA Tech/FSU or Texas/Oklahoma? [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal'][B]Bluevod[/B] ‏@Bluevodreal [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal/status/728962624432574464']10h10 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Genetics56']@Genetics56[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/randywatts7']@randywatts7[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/morrison1124']@morrison1124[/URL] perfect would be all 4 [URL='https://twitter.com/randywatts7'][B]Randy Watts[/B] ‏@randywatts7 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/randywatts7/status/729004767830118400']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal']@Bluevodreal[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Genetics56']@Genetics56[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/morrison1124']@morrison1124[/URL] if they don't get a big12 network can Texas & OK get out of GOR? Or are we waiting till 2024? [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal'][B]Bluevod[/B] ‏@Bluevodreal [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal/status/728962463488745476']10h10 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Genetics56']@Genetics56[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/randywatts7']@randywatts7[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/morrison1124']@morrison1124[/URL] as a fan probably Texas Okl For money GT and FSU but it would be close. Would have to add of $ TV [URL='https://twitter.com/Lego1512'][B]Dave Lego[/B] ‏@Lego1512 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Lego1512/status/728971904170659841']9h9 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal']@Bluevodreal[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Genetics56']@Genetics56[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/randywatts7']@randywatts7[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Morrison11212']@Morrison11212[/URL] Texas & FL bring a lot of $@ and recruits. GT>OK for $ but as a fan I want OK over GT [URL='https://twitter.com/Genetics56'][B]Genetics56[/B] ‏@Genetics56 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Genetics56/status/728986171100041218']8h8 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Lego1512']@Lego1512[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal']@Bluevodreal[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/randywatts7']@randywatts7[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Morrison11212']@Morrison11212[/URL] How much $$ would this bring? ND, UT, OU & KU to B1G. [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal'][B]Bluevod[/B] ‏@Bluevodreal [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal/status/728990447394291713']8h8 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Genetics56']@Genetics56[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Lego1512']@Lego1512[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/randywatts7']@randywatts7[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Morrison11212']@Morrison11212[/URL] Texas would but other markets not very big. ND is a hard to out $ value. [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal'][B]Bluevod[/B] ‏@Bluevodreal [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal/status/728990803591303168']8h8 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Genetics56']@Genetics56[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Lego1512']@Lego1512[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/randywatts7']@randywatts7[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Morrison11212']@Morrison11212[/URL] Fla, Texas, Atlanta, NC and DC Tv market would be lights out$$$ wise. [URL='https://twitter.com/mcgoblue'][B]Matthew D Carlson[/B] ‏@mcgoblue [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/mcgoblue/status/728997573642600453']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal']@Bluevodreal[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Genetics56']@Genetics56[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Lego1512']@Lego1512[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/randywatts7']@randywatts7[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Morrison11212']@Morrison11212[/URL] would the Tar Heels recent issues cause any problems with expansion? [URL='https://twitter.com/Lego1512'][B]Dave Lego[/B] ‏@Lego1512 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Lego1512/status/728997990728269827']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/mcgoblue']@mcgoblue[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal']@Bluevodreal[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Genetics56']@Genetics56[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/randywatts7']@randywatts7[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Morrison11212']@Morrison11212[/URL] I don't have any real sources but word on the street is it could [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal'][B]Bluevod[/B] ‏@Bluevodreal [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal/status/729002031063650305']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Lego1512']@Lego1512[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/mcgoblue']@mcgoblue[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Genetics56']@Genetics56[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/randywatts7']@randywatts7[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Morrison11212']@Morrison11212[/URL] yes there is real concern. [URL='https://twitter.com/CGreen63'][B]Corneilus Green[/B] ‏@CGreen63 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/CGreen63/status/728996294690099200']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal']@Bluevodreal[/URL] Do you really think ESPN has reversed course and will start ACC Network? I don't believe it [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal'][B]Bluevod[/B] ‏@Bluevodreal [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal/status/728996656717377536']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/CGreen63']@CGreen63[/URL] I do not believe it either. It would be a shocker and a head scratcher on why. They have network need content . [URL='https://twitter.com/CGreen63'][B]Corneilus Green[/B] ‏@CGreen63 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/CGreen63/status/728997194217312256']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal']@Bluevodreal[/URL] Only Delany and Goodell dictate to ESPN [URL='https://twitter.com/CGreen63'][B]Corneilus Green[/B] ‏@CGreen63 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/CGreen63/status/728997060565835776']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal']@Bluevodreal[/URL] Swofford ain't stupid to dictate to ESPN [URL='https://twitter.com/CGreen63'][B]Corneilus Green[/B] ‏@CGreen63 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/CGreen63/status/728996975153061888']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal']@Bluevodreal[/URL] Sounds like people want it to happen and people the ACC huffed and puffed to ESPN [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal'][B]Bluevod[/B] ‏@Bluevodreal [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal/status/729001882111324160']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/CGreen63']@CGreen63[/URL] if they do/ have changed mind it would lead me to think they lost the 2nd rights to Big10. [URL='https://twitter.com/CGreen63'][B]Corneilus Green[/B] ‏@CGreen63 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/CGreen63/status/729087517157302272']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal']@Bluevodreal[/URL] I highly doubt that but anything is possible [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal'][B]Bluevod[/B] ‏@Bluevodreal [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal/status/729095796071747585']53m53 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/CGreen63']@CGreen63[/URL] I agree they have to secure the 2rights or ESPN is in deep trouble. [URL='https://twitter.com/CGreen63'][B]Corneilus Green[/B] ‏@CGreen63 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/CGreen63/status/729096118601015296']51m51 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal']@Bluevodreal[/URL] ESPN should know Delany has rolled the dice twice and he's come out better and having a competitor in Fox [URL='https://twitter.com/sooner2016'][B]jessicalarson[/B] ‏@sooner2016 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/sooner2016/status/729096423778701313']50m50 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/CGreen63']@CGreen63[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal']@Bluevodreal[/URL] Yep, and NBC and FOX will help land expansion schools.I suspect Tim Brando's tweet was leaked on purpose. [URL='https://twitter.com/CGreen63'][B]Corneilus Green[/B] ‏@CGreen63 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/CGreen63/status/729096775357751296']49m49 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/sooner2016']@sooner2016[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal']@Bluevodreal[/URL] I think Brando was on something [URL='https://twitter.com/NathanBrice3000'][B]Nathan Brice[/B] ‏@NathanBrice3000 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NathanBrice3000/status/729005086450561024']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal']@Bluevodreal[/URL] Would Texas and Oklahoma take any other Big XII schools with them? [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal'][B]Bluevod[/B] ‏@Bluevodreal [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal/status/729005445768220672']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NathanBrice3000']@NathanBrice3000[/URL] I doubt Big10 wants anyother than those two. [URL='https://twitter.com/NathanBrice3000'][B]Nathan Brice[/B] ‏@NathanBrice3000 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NathanBrice3000/status/729005647149338625']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal']@Bluevodreal[/URL] Would they then go Notre Dame, Florida State, GT, and ????? [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal'][B]Bluevod[/B] ‏@Bluevodreal [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal/status/729005878028931072']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NathanBrice3000']@NathanBrice3000[/URL] yes plus UVA and possibly NC [URL='https://twitter.com/NathanBrice3000'][B]Nathan Brice[/B] ‏@NathanBrice3000 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NathanBrice3000/status/729006690646032384']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal']@Bluevodreal[/URL] Would ESPN possibly choose to either keep the Big Ten or start an ACC Network? [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal'][B]Bluevod[/B] ‏@Bluevodreal [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bluevodreal/status/729008212888985600']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NathanBrice3000']@NathanBrice3000[/URL] maybe but it would not be their choice just they got outbid. ME: Good gawd! :confused: [/QUOTE]

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