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Message: [QUOTE="CoastAtlantic, post: 1683868, member: 5174"] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727532310090907650']1h1 hour ago[/URL] The Big 12 will not vote to expand in May. The preeminent topic is still a network. No consensus on G5 candidates = not enough votes. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727532614744166400']1h1 hour ago[/URL] A 4-5% boast in playoffs odds not enough to offset pain of dividing into divisions or slight loss. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727532811457073153']1h1 hour ago[/URL] At this point any expansion without a network is only possible with 2 football-only additions. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727533062721036293']1h1 hour ago[/URL] Texas, Texas Tech & TCU will not vote for expansion & that's not a new development. That's been true for over a year. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727533333341691904']1h1 hour ago[/URL] Texas is against adding ANY G5 school (maybe other than BYU) and the Red Raiders & Frogs are following their lead. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727533749899018241']1h1 hour ago[/URL] At this point Texas is not keen on a Big 12 network but hopefully that will change once the Chancelors & presidents meet. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727534408547315714']1h1 hour ago[/URL] The data, at least from Navigate has been known for a few weeks & was behind the recent comments against expansion. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727534850387922947']1h1 hour ago[/URL] What's also not known (at least by me) is how the identity of possible additions affect playoff probability. [URL='https://twitter.com/DooleyMcStitch'][B]Dooley[/B] ‏@DooleyMcStitch [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/DooleyMcStitch/status/727534018590347264']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] The little fish attaching themselves to the fin of the shark. Post B12 will be difficult for majority of B12 leftovers. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727535143028707328']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/DooleyMcStitch']@DooleyMcStitch[/URL] Hopefully it's just positioning prior to the meetings. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727535454048903168']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/DooleyMcStitch']@DooleyMcStitch[/URL] My solution: go to 14. Add 2 full members & BYU & Boise/Other school for football only. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727535861693333504']59m59 minutes ago[/URL] Texas continues to believe if they win the Big 12 without a CCG they will always make the playoffs. [URL='https://twitter.com/StrengthOfSpear'][B]Garrett Weiss[/B] ‏@StrengthOfSpear [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/StrengthOfSpear/status/727534733773643776']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] funny the frog's don't want any G5 schools [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727536083907547136']59m59 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/StrengthOfSpear']@StrengthOfSpear[/URL] TCU owes Texas. So they are following UT's lead. [URL='https://twitter.com/pfac51'][B]Trip Manfro[/B] ‏@pfac51 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/pfac51/status/727536006954635265']59m59 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] Call me when Texas football makes the Final Four [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/pfac51']@pfac51[/URL] We both know a B12 champ Texas has the cachet to make the playoffs. Longhorns are CFB royalty right up there with USC & Bama. [URL='https://twitter.com/ki676love'][B]'lsi M[/B] ‏@ki676love [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ki676love/status/727536808561512450']57m57 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/DooleyMcStitch']@DooleyMcStitch[/URL] No P5 has ever added a football only school. Never happened never will. Big East was pathetic fb conference [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ki676love']@ki676love[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/DooleyMcStitch']@DooleyMcStitch[/URL] If the B12 offers BYU & Boise a football only membership they take it. [URL='https://twitter.com/ki676love'][B]'lsi M[/B] ‏@ki676love [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ki676love/status/727538039707197440']52m52 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/DooleyMcStitch']@DooleyMcStitch[/URL] they would but they'll never do football only. They won't adopt G5 practices now. Its a fundamental change [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727538933643501568']48m48 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ki676love']@ki676love[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/DooleyMcStitch']@DooleyMcStitch[/URL] Big 12 football only money would be over $20M each year. I'm guessing that's 4x what BYU gets & more for BSU. [URL='https://twitter.com/ki676love'][B]'lsi M[/B] ‏@ki676love [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ki676love/status/727539399190138880']46m46 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/DooleyMcStitch']@DooleyMcStitch[/URL] BYU would jump at it. I'm saying B12 will never do football only. There's nothing to say they would do it ever [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727540314387402752']44m44 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ki676love']@ki676love[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/DooleyMcStitch']@DooleyMcStitch[/URL] Limits travel, eliminates lost revenue. Actually increases revenue for a few years. [URL='https://twitter.com/ki676love'][B]'lsi M[/B] ‏@ki676love [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ki676love/status/727542130600644609']37m37 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/DooleyMcStitch']@DooleyMcStitch[/URL] I'm not opposed to football only. If they never did football only, Big 8, SWC, or B12, why would they start? [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727540081632919552']45m45 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ki676love']@ki676love[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/DooleyMcStitch']@DooleyMcStitch[/URL] Yes they would. Solves some issues. Provides better football programs that arguably improve product. [URL='https://twitter.com/ki676love'][B]'lsi M[/B] ‏@ki676love [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ki676love/status/727541413668261888']40m40 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/DooleyMcStitch']@DooleyMcStitch[/URL] solves some issues but hurts image & perceptions. Perception is everything in CFP & recruiting & prestige [URL='https://twitter.com/Boomer145'][B]Boomer17[/B] ‏@Boomer145 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Boomer145/status/727537456267051008']57m57 minutes ago[/URL] Boomer17 Retweeted Christopher Lambert Accurate for only [URL='https://twitter.com/hashtag/OU?src=hash']#OU[/URL] & [URL='https://twitter.com/hashtag/UT?src=hash']#UT[/URL]...the rest of the league will get left out 8 out of 10 times realistically. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Boomer145']@Boomer145[/URL] Does Texas care about the other 8? A CCG makes their road to the playoffs tougher. [URL='https://twitter.com/Boomer145'][B]Boomer17[/B] ‏@Boomer145 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Boomer145/status/727539334467977217']49m49 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] Exactly. Sad part is the TCU's and TTU's of the world are blindly following Texas to their own detriment. TCU already saw it. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727547136846495744']19m19 minutes ago[/URL] A reliable source has just told me the data from Navigate Research, contrary to popular opinion, does not support Big 12 expansion. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727547799064186881']17m17 minutes ago[/URL] According to the same source the Big 12 will not expand without an INCREASE in revenues. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727548117084680192']16m16 minutes ago[/URL] He confirmed that a network will be the preeminent topic of discussion during the meetings in late May. [URL='https://twitter.com/UConn6thBorough'][B]Storrs South[/B] ‏@UConn6thBorough [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UConn6thBorough/status/727548487236210689']15m15 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] is this without a network? [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/727550991063719937']5m5 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UConn6thBorough']@UConn6thBorough[/URL] Yes. Expansion without a network virtually offers no benefit. [URL='https://twitter.com/TuxedoYoda'][B]Tuxedo Yoda[/B] ‏@TuxedoYoda [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TuxedoYoda/status/727512155705188352']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Tuxedo Yoda Retweeted Navigate Research Looking like B12 will stop at 12. UCF is in. Who gets invited, UConn or Cinci ?!? [URL='https://twitter.com/DooleyMcStitch'][B]Dooley[/B] ‏@DooleyMcStitch [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/DooleyMcStitch/status/727513399870017536']3h3 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TuxedoYoda']@TuxedoYoda[/URL] UConn should be a lock. #1 in majority of metrics of all G5 schools. Brand, AD budget/revenue, TVs, Academics, Athletic success [URL='https://twitter.com/TuxedoYoda'][B]Tuxedo Yoda[/B] ‏@TuxedoYoda [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TuxedoYoda/status/727520528270024704']2h2 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/DooleyMcStitch']@DooleyMcStitch[/URL] No argument from me [URL='https://twitter.com/CFBHeather'][B]Heather DinichVerified account[/B]‏@CFBHeather[/URL] Big 12 data: Expansion vital to boost CFP hopes [URL='https://twitter.com/GSwaim'][B]Greg Serah Williams aim[/B] ‏@GSw aim [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/GSwaim/status/727517817684119553']2h2 hours ago[/URL] Greg Swaim Retweeted Heather Dinich [URL='https://twitter.com/hashtag/Big12?src=hash']#Big12[/URL] in a quandry...want to add quality teams, but they don't believe there are any to be added. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@flugempire [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/727502979515850752']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Greg Flugaur Retweeted Heather Dinich [URL='https://post original url/6x9nWFnVcm']https://mobile.twitter.com/CFBHeather/status/727501817442123776…[/URL] This is true.Data will be used to buttress the direction(schools)which have most traction. As we stated on Feb 15th [URL='https://twitter.com/frankthetank111'][B]Frank the Tank[/B] ‏@frankthetank111 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/frankthetank111/status/727347769246015489']14h14 hours ago[/URL] .[URL='https://twitter.com/Enquirer']@Enquirer[/URL] take on Cincinnati and Big 12, but biggest part is belief that 7 Big 12 members favor expansion [URL='https://twitter.com/frankthetank111'][B]Frank the Tank[/B] ‏@frankthetank111 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/frankthetank111/status/727348317928083457']14h14 hours ago[/URL] From [URL='https://twitter.com/Enquirer']@Enquirer[/URL], belief is Texas is getting Texas Tech and TCU to block expansion. Need 8 Big 12 members to approve [URL='https://twitter.com/frankthetank111'][B]Frank the Tank[/B] ‏@frankthetank111 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/frankthetank111/status/727506119086641152']3h3 hours ago[/URL] ICYMI: From [URL='https://twitter.com/Enquirer']@Enquirer[/URL], belief is Texas is getting Texas Tech and TCU to block expansion. 7 Big 12 schools support it, but need 8 to approve. [URL='https://twitter.com/thepowerrank'][B]Ed Feng[/B]‏@thepowerrank[/URL] An analytics firm told the Big 12 to expand to 12 teams and hold a championship game. [URL='https://twitter.com/frankthetank111'][B]Frank the Tank[/B] ‏@frankthetank111 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/frankthetank111/status/727510002970202112']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Frank the Tank Retweeted Ed Feng It's easy - With CCG, it's "win and we're in". Without CCG, it's "win and maybe we're in if someone else loses". [URL='https://twitter.com/DooleyMcStitch'][B]Dooley[/B]‏@DooleyMcStitch[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/frankthetank111']@frankthetank111[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Enquirer']@Enquirer[/URL] Good ol' Texas politics at play. TT and TCU should be worried if the B12 disbands. Need to attach to UT's hip. [URL='https://twitter.com/frankthetank111'][B]Frank the Tank[/B] ‏@frankthetank111 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/frankthetank111/status/727513702153355264']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Frank the Tank Retweeted Dooley Key point is that Baylor is NOT listed. They have a sobering reality that Texas was willing to ditch them for Pac-16 [/QUOTE]

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