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Message: [QUOTE="CoastAtlantic, post: 1638505, member: 5174"] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713434034882347008']6h6 hours ago[/URL] First thing I want to say is that I don't want to scare anyone. These are scary times economically. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713434159830724608']6h6 hours ago[/URL] It's entirely possible some major programs will be left out. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713434302957096960']6h6 hours ago[/URL] When I lay out Plan A then I think you will see what I mean. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713434441583050752']6h6 hours ago[/URL] But even if some major programs are left out, that doesn't mean they won't be a part of what will become a power conference. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713434585636450304']6h6 hours ago[/URL] It just means they won't be in the upper echelon and that isn't too different from where they are right now. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713434661142335488']6h6 hours ago[/URL] This is all about where college sports are moving in the next generation. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713434849487556608']6h6 hours ago[/URL] Some of the things we've come to take for granted will change. The way you think about realignment will have to change. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713434919096201216']6h6 hours ago[/URL] So bare with me as I lay out the groundwork. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713435066043670528']6h6 hours ago[/URL] I said last night that schools from the Pac 12, the Big 12, and the ACC are planning on aligning themselves. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713435147333464065']6h6 hours ago[/URL] Who? What? When? Where? Why? [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713435285279940608']6h6 hours ago[/URL] Now that I've teased this to death, I need to tell you. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713435376363388928']6h6 hours ago[/URL] This isn't just about athletics. This is about academics just as much if not more. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713435653149691904']6h6 hours ago[/URL] This is about research money and prestige as well as television appeal for a new athletic league. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713435761044033537']6h6 hours ago[/URL] The thought at this time is that this league will be composed of 20 schools from regions all over the country. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713435960457953281']6h6 hours ago[/URL] AAU schools will get preference, but non-AAU schools won't necessarily be excluded. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713436104922439680']6h6 hours ago[/URL] One of the primary goals here is to create a research based cooperative that will rival and in the future surpass the CIC. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713436244081041408']6h6 hours ago[/URL] This won't just be about partnerships but shared endowments as well. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713436444275175424']6h6 hours ago[/URL] Don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying the schools involved will give up the endowments they currently possess. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713436568321699840']6h6 hours ago[/URL] There will be new investment in new endowments that the members of this conference will share in. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713436724744073218']6h6 hours ago[/URL] Now that we've nibbled at the crust, let's get down to the meat. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713436994366533633']6h6 hours ago[/URL] All of the AAU schools from the Pac 12 will be involved: UW, UO, Stanford, Cal-Berkley, USC, UCLA, UA, and CU [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713437133080555520']6h6 hours ago[/URL] Only 4 schools from the current Big 12 are making the cut: Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Iowa State [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713437371216297985']6h6 hours ago[/URL] When it comes to the ACC contribution, things get a little murkier. I don't have good contacts from that conference. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713437555564404737']6h6 hours ago[/URL] The AAU schools are in. GT, UNC, Duke, UVA, Pittsburgh...there's no debate about these schools. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713437927943106566']6h6 hours ago[/URL] The debate centers on a few factors: academics, market exposure, and athletic prowess [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713438496032178176']5h5 hours ago[/URL] None of the rest of the ACC schools really move the needle in all 3 areas. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713439481429434372']5h5 hours ago[/URL] The only other ACC school that really moves the needle in all 3 areas is the big fish no one has ever caught...Notre Dame. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713439815363141637']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Now, I'm not saying Notre Dame is definitely going to join this league assuming the league ever comes to fruition. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713439891078651904']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Allow me to indulge on this theory. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713439969734500353']5h5 hours ago[/URL] What does Notre Dame value more than anything? [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713440074407485441']5h5 hours ago[/URL] You probably said "independence." But that's really a means to an end. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713440221451444225']5h5 hours ago[/URL] What Notre Dame values more than anything is national exposure, a national schedule, and national recruiting. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713440425202331648']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Notre Dame is THE Catholic university in the country. They don't want their brand limited by affiliation with a regional conference [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713440927851880449']5h5 hours ago[/URL] What if Notre Dame could play a national schedule and reap all the monetary benefits of full membership in a conference? [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713441070789615616']5h5 hours ago[/URL] How valuable would a conference network be all over the country with a couple of Notre Dame football games on every season? [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713441266911027200']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Think about it like this...ND gets to play their West Coast rivals, regular games with OU and UT... [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713441585590046721']5h5 hours ago[/URL] They get all the exposure of playing in growing Southern markets plus they have room to play non-conference rivals like Navy and Michigan. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713441796697808896']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Just as important, they get to affiliate with premier academic institutions from all over the country. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713441917636202496']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Would Notre Dame take the plunge given all those benefits? Some people think so. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713442095923638272']5h5 hours ago[/URL] If Notre Dame is in then you can bet on Boston College and Miami being the final 2 schools. The total would be 20. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713442301842993152']5h5 hours ago[/URL] As I mentioned earlier, Syracuse has a real shot at getting in. My money is on them getting in if for no more reason than the NY market [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713442417681244161']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Some think this leagues desperate needs a NY presence and they are probably right. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713442731264253956']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Syracuse is already affiliated with the ACC so that helps their case immensely over a school like UConn. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713442898205925376']5h5 hours ago[/URL] I'm certainly not knocking UConn and I can't say with certainly they won't find their way in... [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713442979894190081']5h5 hours ago[/URL] I'm just saying I haven't heard UConn mentioned. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713443624126717956']5h5 hours ago[/URL] One more nugget before I go today... [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713443812522270722']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Part of the impetus for this meeting of the minds is that certain schools from the ACC and Big 12 have been talking with the Big Ten and SEC [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713444503986823170']5h5 hours ago[/URL] There's a chance that the likes of Florida State and Clemson will move to the SEC sooner than later. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713444610564038656']5h5 hours ago[/URL] There's a chance the likes of Virginia Tech could move to the Big Ten. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713444811454287873']5h5 hours ago[/URL] If things start to happen on that front then the rest of the ACC will have to be ready to do something a little out of the box. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713445222659833856']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Ok, ladies and gentlemen. I need to go for today, but I will be back soon if I have more relevant information. [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg'][B]Storrs South[/B] ‏@gampel_2_msg [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg/status/713438218943905793']6h6 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru']@Expansion_Guru[/URL] I see no New York market in there, would that be an opportunity for UConn? [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B]‏@Expansion_Guru[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg']@gampel_2_msg[/URL] That's where things get hairy. Syracuse has a real shot at being included. [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg'][B]Storrs South[/B] ‏@gampel_2_msg [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg/status/713440243454779392']6h6 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru']@Expansion_Guru[/URL] would academics potentially be demarcation line? We're closer to AAU. I've read us achieving that status in next decade [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713443520359624705']5h5 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg']@gampel_2_msg[/URL] I would tell you if I heard something. I just haven't heard UConn being mentioned. [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg'][B]Storrs South[/B] ‏@gampel_2_msg [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg/status/713443849423577088']5h5 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru']@Expansion_Guru[/URL] I hear ya. Man what is going to take to get this school P5 status? (That's rhetorical but feel free to answer haha) [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru'][B]Benedict Schuster[/B] ‏@Expansion_Guru [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Guru/status/713444154441859073']5h5 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg']@gampel_2_msg[/URL] My guess would be that UConn will get Power status. I just doubt it will be as a member of this new league. [/QUOTE]

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