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Message: [QUOTE="CoastAtlantic, post: 1634118, member: 5174"] [URL='https://twitter.com/'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ /status/712278200349564928']4h4 hours ago[/URL] FSU board of trustees have told B12 liaison that ACC has failed to deliver on promises that were crucial to their signing of the GOR [URL='https://twitter.com/'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ /status/712278418268790784']4h4 hours ago[/URL] And that the language in the ESPN contract leaves it open to be void if promises not kept. [URL='https://twitter.com/'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ /status/712278676684083200']4h4 hours ago[/URL] FSU also saying that the TV contract revenue hasn't increased to the promised amount before ACCN was set to launch. [URL='https://twitter.com/'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ /status/712278945970987008']4h4 hours ago[/URL] By TV contract amount they are referring to just the 3 tiers of broadcast rights. Not bowls, playoff $$, NCAA tourney $$, etc [URL='https://twitter.com/'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ /status/712279074039848960']4h4 hours ago[/URL] This information is also known by the other conference up north. [URL='https://twitter.com/'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ /status/712293383864250368']3h3 hours ago[/URL] FSU is also saying they would prefer to stay with an intact ACC but will not do so at the risk of falling far behind in TV $$ [URL='https://twitter.com/'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ /status/712293450360758272']3h3 hours ago[/URL] Or if other defections occur. [URL='https://twitter.com/Muleyak'][B]Jeff Sweet[/B] ‏@Muleyak [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Muleyak/status/712323172989739010']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/']@MH ver3[/URL] i seriously doubt anyone in the ACC has discussed anything the the train wreck Big 12. SEC or B1G maybe. Big 12 doubtful [URL='https://twitter.com/BrewDog44'][B]BrewDog[/B] ‏@BrewDog44 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BrewDog44/status/712327075055607809']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Muleyak']@Muleyak[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/']@MH ver3[/URL] Being reported OSU/OU offered spots in PAC 12 or SEC. Why would anyone in ACC go to B12 if they leave? [URL='https://twitter.com/'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ /status/712338723883634688']22m22 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BrewDog44']@BrewDog44[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Muleyak']@Muleyak[/URL] and Pac12 didn't want OSU/OU by themselves last time around. [URL='https://twitter.com/'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ /status/712337998856192000']25m25 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BrewDog44']@BrewDog44[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Muleyak']@Muleyak[/URL] if B12 doomsday scenario occurred them of course no one in ACC would want to go [URL='https://twitter.com/Muleyak'][B]Jeff Sweet[/B] ‏@Muleyak [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Muleyak/status/712339066973454336']21m21 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/']@MH ver3[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BrewDog44']@BrewDog44[/URL] playing devils advocate. Teams HAVE bailed and OK and Tx are bickering and looking around. Why would any1 want to join [URL='https://twitter.com/'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ /status/712340542756098048']15m15 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Muleyak']@Muleyak[/URL] because despite the issues a conf with UT/OU is going to be big $$. If stability and parity can be reached-very attractive [URL='https://twitter.com/BBartlett819'][B]Brandon Bartlett[/B] ‏@BBartlett819 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BBartlett819/status/712282072971235328']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/']@MH ver3[/URL] so is July 1 the big date(I believe that was deadline for the ACC Network)? Should this be the start of all the potential movement? [URL='https://twitter.com/'][B]MH ver3[/B]‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BBartlett819']@BBartlett819[/URL] that also coincides with B12 decision and another conf new TV deal. [URL='https://twitter.com/BrewDog44'][B]BrewDog[/B] ‏@BrewDog44 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BrewDog44/status/712313444062646272']2h2 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/']@MH ver3[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BBartlett819']@BBartlett819[/URL] Hearing OU/OSU have offer from other P5 conference. [URL='https://twitter.com/'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ /status/712318663609749504']2h2 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BrewDog44']@BrewDog44[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BBartlett819']@BBartlett819[/URL] Gundys comments states that UT would find themselves in the PAC or SEC. He is alluding to the doomsday scenario. [URL='https://twitter.com/'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ /status/712317658746773504']2h2 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BrewDog44']@BrewDog44[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BBartlett819']@BBartlett819[/URL] I haven't heard that regarding OSU. [URL='https://twitter.com/ScottMacHaggis'][B]Scott MacHaggis[/B] ‏@ScottMacHaggis [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ScottMacHaggis/status/712308034098167808']2h2 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/']@MH ver3[/URL] Mike Gundy took the gloves off over the LHN. [URL='https://post original url/4EXtr5NuM3']http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/3/22/11284056/oklahoma-state-mike-gundy-big-12-longhorn-network…[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/'][B]MH ver3[/B]‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/ScottMacHaggis']@ScottMacHaggis[/URL] you will hear more quotes like this from other B12 leaders. It is to pressure UT. [URL='https://twitter.com/lancefield03'][B]Lance[/B] ‏@lancefield03 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/lancefield03/status/712293966536814592']3h3 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/']@MH ver3[/URL] Mighty $ rules all in college athletics! [URL='https://twitter.com/BrewDog44'][B]BrewDog[/B] ‏@BrewDog44 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BrewDog44/status/712327616607293440']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/lancefield03']@lancefield03[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/']@MH ver3[/URL] Sounds like SEC might be going after OU/OSU/FSU and one other ACC school if B12 and ACC can't figure out the money [URL='https://twitter.com/'][B]MH ver3[/B]‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BrewDog44']@BrewDog44[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/lancefield03']@lancefield03[/URL] where are you getting this from? [URL='https://twitter.com/'][B]MH ver3[/B]‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BrewDog44']@BrewDog44[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/lancefield03']@lancefield03[/URL] I know OU has a standing offer from sec. OSU was not part of that. [URL='https://twitter.com/'][B]MH ver3[/B]‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BrewDog44']@BrewDog44[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/lancefield03']@lancefield03[/URL] sec has zero interest in FSU. [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B]‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BrewDog44']@BrewDog44[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/lancefield03']@lancefield03[/URL] LHN to B12N and expansion is to keep that doomsday from happening. [URL='https://twitter.com/MikeRegoEBN'][B]Mike Rego[/B] ‏@MikeRegoEBN [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MikeRegoEBN/status/712325413507301376']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] Your take on Gundy going public with [URL='https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs']@dennisdoddcbs[/URL] about LHN? [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B]‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MikeRegoEBN']@MikeRegoEBN[/URL] I think the longer UT holds out on a final decision the more you will see this type of pressure put on them from member schools [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@flugempire [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/712322327690739712']2h2 hours ago[/URL] Greg Flugaur Retweeted Dennis Dodd [URL='https://post original url/2hJj3bDLER']https://mobile.twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/712291286108143616…[/URL] Yep. LHN has to go for B12 stability to happen. Greg Flugaur added, [B]Dennis Dodd[/B] @dennisdoddcbs Mike Gundy first coach to enter this arena: Says Longhorn Net a "failure." Its elimination is key to B12 stability. [URL]http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/25526149/mike-gundy-texas-network-a-failure-big-12-needs-it-eliminated…[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NebGradDubDub'][B]Doug[/B] ‏@NebGradDubDub [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NebGradDubDub/status/712330648069910528']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@flugempire[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs']@dennisdoddcbs[/URL] Gundy and Okie State are failures for running off CU, Nebraska, MIZZ, and A&M. Sided with the devil, now eat it [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@flugempire [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/712322822631202816']2h2 hours ago[/URL] It's just so odd that Dude of WV forgot about all of our Twitter arguments in 2014/15 in which he told me I was a fraud to say LHN had to go [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@flugempire [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/712323133726986245']2h2 hours ago[/URL] So odd....so odd. You would think the "professional"..the dude would have spotted how bad LHN was for B12 before 2016...everyone else did. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@flugempire [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/712323809429360640']2h2 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://post original url/l7R7MXwgR4']http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/dennis-dodd/25526149/mike-gundy-texas-network-a-failure-big-12-needs-it-eliminated…[/URL] What Mike Gundy is correctly stating is B12 has a marketing issue "RC Cola".. taste great but bad shelving location [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@flugempire [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/712324464759980032']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://post original url/l7R7MXwgR4']http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/dennis-dodd/25526149/mike-gundy-texas-network-a-failure-big-12-needs-it-eliminated…[/URL] Gundy says lots of truth...except you need to enlarge footprint to make B12N work beyond turning LHN into B12N [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@flugempire [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/712324818952126464']1h1 hour ago[/URL] Buy yeah..Gundy speaks to truth. B12 needs to move toward what Boren is advocating...and can't fall short of doing it all. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@flugempire [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/712325319211012101']1h1 hour ago[/URL] Texas....Oklahoma....Kansas....won't be in the Big 12 if Conference does not grow in institutions-Footprint-Exposure- [URL='https://twitter.com/JeffLurking'][B]King, Jeff[/B] ‏@JeffLurking [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/JeffLurking/status/712323058694926336']2h2 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@flugempire[/URL] I still want to do a "sitdown" podcast with the two of you. Would be some must-listen for conference realignment fans [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B]‏@flugempire[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/JeffLurking']@JeffLurking[/URL] Dude has been pro individual 3rd tier rights for B12 schools for years...the guy is a complete doofus. I don't punch downward [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B]‏@flugempire[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/JeffLurking']@JeffLurking[/URL] No one has been more incorrect...hell...wrong about every facet of the B12 than Dude. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@flugempire [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/712326265768902659']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/JeffLurking']@JeffLurking[/URL] We have broken more stories on Twitter in 2 years than Dude has since 2010. Dude is a complete waste of time...complete [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@flugempire [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/712326953437679623']1h1 hour ago[/URL] You see...Boren was not senile...as some told you (Dude) as the saw their made up world collide around them... Boren has given B12 a chance [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@flugempire [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/712327414345560064']1h1 hour ago[/URL] B12 has to...HAS TO...expand...expand in Eastern Time Zone..Acedmics + Market + Disposable income + Building relationships = UC/UCONN [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@flugempire [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/712327742352658432']1h1 hour ago[/URL] I don't need a podcast...I state things very clearly. If we are wrong...flame me (we won't be) If we are right..we get nothing in return. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@flugempire [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/712328212622217217']1h1 hour ago[/URL] Do you Gundy is the only Coach/Leadership position person in B12 who is thinking what he just said? Of course not. Of course not. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@flugempire [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/712328513039245312']1h1 hour ago[/URL] I understand why Mike Gundy does not want Expansion...but you can't do a B12N with 5 states with the population as it stands. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@flugempire [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/712329307348140032']1h1 hour ago[/URL] Metrics will be kind to Boren's goals. UT will play ball or lead B12 implosion. We believe UT plays ball for now until 2026..at least "26" [URL='https://twitter.com/troyboy8ball'][B]Christian Goodman[/B] ‏@troyboy8ball [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/troyboy8ball/status/712330086729564160']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@flugempire[/URL] Does BTM have any thoughts on ACC stability? Will UVA/UNC be ok with earning much less than B1G & SEC? Would B1G take ACC teams? [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@flugempire [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/712331396715520001']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/troyboy8ball']@troyboy8ball[/URL] We have no info on ACC stability. ACC GOR and Big 12 GOR are real. Only implosion of multiple schools wrecks the GOR's. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@flugempire [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/712331693873602560']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/troyboy8ball']@troyboy8ball[/URL] No one or two schools will challenge the ACC or B12 GOR. ESPN backs ACC internally much more than B12. Both have issues [URL='https://twitter.com/troyboy8ball'][B]Christian Goodman[/B] ‏@troyboy8ball [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/troyboy8ball/status/712332562425888768']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@flugempire[/URL] Landscape in 10 years will be interesting. How much $ will UNC/UVA/others be willing to eat to stay in their preferred conf? [URL='https://twitter.com/NebGradDubDub'][B]Doug[/B] ‏@NebGradDubDub [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NebGradDubDub/status/712331694146105344']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@flugempire[/URL] we shall see who wants to sign a B12 GOR extension past 2024. That's the truth serum [/QUOTE]

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