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Message: [QUOTE="CoastAtlantic, post: 1625611, member: 5174"] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710640350478532608']26m26 minutes ago[/URL] There are some in the B12 that don't think Miami is worthy of an invite. I disagree. But the feeling is there. [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710640535048822784']25m25 minutes ago[/URL] Miami/FSU is always a ratings grab. [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710640683820843008']27m27 minutes ago[/URL] I wish I could tell you what I know about up north. [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710640985504489472']26m26 minutes ago[/URL] I can say that the ACC is in for a wallop if they can't get their together and sign a GOR that will be valid and binding after July. [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710641605883990016']23m23 minutes ago[/URL] My source tells me that is one in B12 prefer UC/Uconn/FSU/Clemson and stay at 14 until Pac12 GOR is up. [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710641918753918976']23m23 minutes ago[/URL] They think by then the gap between PAC and B12 will be so wide that an old friend and a new one may want to come play. [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710642160551395329']22m22 minutes ago[/URL] Would be good sized markets to add to network as well. But they would have to sell their stake in Pac12N. [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710642390051127296']22m22 minutes ago[/URL] The profits from that sale may be enough to buy the football team a trip to the Golden Corral. [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU'][B]Murr[/B] ‏@MurrDCU [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU/status/710642354462457857']24m24 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] Colorado and Arizona? [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710642516131864576']22m22 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] yes and yes [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710642874736467968']20m20 minutes ago[/URL] Also just want to add that athletic directors aren't going to be making decisions about converting networks or conference expansion [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710642958219882496']20m20 minutes ago[/URL] They have input but that's about it [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710643507954737152']18m18 minutes ago[/URL] New timeline looks like: May-B12 has meeting to discuss findings of research. July-ACC/ESPN make or break;BigNorth new TV deal/wrecks acc(?) [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710643931684274176']16m16 minutes ago[/URL] Late July: B12 expands by at least 2(UC/Uconn) or maybe 4(Uconn,FSU,Clemson,UC/Miami) convert LHN to B12N. Add CCG [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13'][B]Aaron[/B] ‏@posas13 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13/status/710642671916851200']24m24 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] and talent. crazy to not want Miami. Big 8 / SWC simply afraid of Miami after the beatings they took in the Orange Bowl. [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU'][B]Murr[/B] ‏@MurrDCU [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU/status/710642956072423424']24m24 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13']@posas13[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] Miami still looks like fools gold [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13'][B]Aaron[/B] ‏@posas13 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13/status/710643666537345024']21m21 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] Regardless whether Miami fulfills it's potential, they still own a lg market, natl interest & best talent base in the US. [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B]‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13']@posas13[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] but they fill a stadium like Pitt [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13'][B]Aaron[/B] ‏@posas13 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13/status/710644414159429632']18m18 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] True, but kind of sound like a fan who had their heartbroken by UM too many times...like OU & UT. [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU'][B]Murr[/B] ‏@MurrDCU [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU/status/710643805536423936']22m22 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13']@posas13[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] FSU gets you into that market [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13'][B]Aaron[/B] ‏@posas13 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13/status/710643934490468353']21m21 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] Nope. Tallahassee is a loooong way from Miami. [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B]‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13']@posas13[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] recruiting-wise yes. Network-wise no. [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13'][B]Aaron[/B] ‏@posas13 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13/status/710644630891716613']18m18 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] The stadium is their biggest issue. [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU'][B]Murr[/B] ‏@MurrDCU [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU/status/710644872491835393']17m17 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13']@posas13[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] Miami has regressed heavily. Stadium issues sanctions recruiting violations.... [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13'][B]aron[/B] ‏@posas13 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13/status/710645236553404417']16m16 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] NCAA issues are done. They've had strong recruiting 3 consecutive years, and the stadium just went thru $300MM+ reno. [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13'][B]Aaron[/B] ‏@posas13 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13/status/710645474722783232']15m15 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] Stadium location is the biggest problem...if they can share the MLS stadium with Beckham, would solve things. [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710645940089040897']13m13 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13']@posas13[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] they should've kept the old one. [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU'][B]Murr[/B] ‏@MurrDCU [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU/status/710646086210203649']15m15 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13']@posas13[/URL] were they renting the old on? [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13'][B]Aaron[/B] ‏@posas13 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13/status/710646860558553088']11m11 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] Tallahassee is more like Alabama than Miami...different galaxy. [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13'][B]Aaron[/B] ‏@posas13 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13/status/710646454419857409']13m13 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] Yes. They tore down the Orange Bowl to build the Marlins Stadium..disaster. [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13'][B]Aaron[/B] ‏@posas13 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13/status/710646700453601284']13m13 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] Guys, FSU does not deliver Florida. See here, FSU followers #3 in Miami at 9% vs Canes at 59% [URL='https://post original url/z0UcHvi152']http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/03/upshot/ncaa-football-map.html#8,26.092,-80.105…[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710646909224902657']12m12 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13']@posas13[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] for ratings yes. But B12N would get the rate hike for subscribers statewide with just one. [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13'][B]Aaron[/B] ‏@posas13 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13/status/710647333315342336']10m10 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] Would be a missed opportunity to not have regular games in Dade county...WVU built much of their program due to those games [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710647794428567553']9m9 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13']@posas13[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] I agree and I love the U. Miss those games more than Pitt. [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13'][B]Aaron[/B] ‏@posas13 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13/status/710647511912943616']11m11 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] WVU used games vs. Miami to unlock recruiting in FL...especially South Florida. [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13'][B]Aaron[/B] ‏@posas13 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13/status/710645038896775168']21m21 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] Culturally Miami & Tallahassee are different planets, not to mention a 7 hour drive. [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13'][B]Aaron[/B] ‏@posas13 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/posas13/status/710644571970134016']23m23 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MurrDCU']@MurrDCU[/URL] Will see what the program looks like with no NCAA over their heads, a new coach, and a refurbished stadium. [URL='https://twitter.com/AndrewWamugi'][B]Andrew Wamugi[/B] ‏@AndrewWamugi [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/AndrewWamugi/status/710644357007679488']24m24 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] that timeline would suggest teams wouldn't move until 2017 at earliest. [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710644852480806912']22m22 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/AndrewWamugi']@AndrewWamugi[/URL] I think the two AAC teams would play by fall 2017. [URL='https://twitter.com/AndrewWamugi'][B]Andrew Wamugi[/B] ‏@AndrewWamugi [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/AndrewWamugi/status/710645179728789505']21m21 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] do you know the AAC buyout fees? I believe I read about them a long time ago but can't recall. [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710645795695898624']18m18 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/AndrewWamugi']@AndrewWamugi[/URL] I think for UC, Uconn, and USF it is more than the others because they received the WVU/RU/Louisville $$. $10mil I think [URL='https://twitter.com/AndrewWamugi'][B]Andrew Wamugi[/B] ‏@AndrewWamugi [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/AndrewWamugi/status/710646152987693057']17m17 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] that $10m fee seems recoupable pretty quickly even at a graduated Big 12 conference share before its equal to current members [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B]‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/AndrewWamugi']@AndrewWamugi[/URL] I think the network $$ wouldn't be graduated. Just the ESPN/fox $$ [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710646455845785600']17m17 minutes ago[/URL] B12 CCG with current 10 members and Having OU and UT in separate divisions is worth $50mil per year. [URL='https://twitter.com/AndrewWamugi'][B]Andrew Wamugi[/B] ‏@AndrewWamugi [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/AndrewWamugi/status/710646760176103425']16m16 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] that value would be worth double what the conference up north gets for its CCG currently. I imagine it will increase for them soon [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B]‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/AndrewWamugi']@AndrewWamugi[/URL] theirs will more than double [URL='https://twitter.com/dadofboys5'][B]DadofBoys[/B] ‏@dadofboys5 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/dadofboys5/status/710646921308733440']16m16 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] you really need to stop tweeting such blatantly false tweets. 1- no divisions in a 10 team conference 2- ACC already has GOR [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B]‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/dadofboys5']@dadofboys5[/URL] the $$ was given to B12 before the ncaa made the ruling. Having them is separate divisions is still key with 12 [URL='https://twitter.com/dadofboys5'][B]DadofBoys[/B] ‏@dadofboys5 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/dadofboys5/status/710647609933737985']13m13 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] your tweet talked about 10 team championship game and OU and UT in seperate divisions [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710648065883934721']12m12 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/dadofboys5']@dadofboys5[/URL] yes it did. Those financials were given to the conference months ago. They are going to 12 though. [URL='https://twitter.com/dadofboys5'][B]DadofBoys[/B] ‏@dadofboys5 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/dadofboys5/status/710647741009924096']13m13 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] You also went off about ACC needing grant of rights which they already have for another decade. Just stop [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B]‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/dadofboys5']@dadofboys5[/URL] GOR only valid after July 1st with ACCN creation. New one will be needed after that. [URL='https://twitter.com/dadofboys5'][B]DadofBoys[/B] ‏@dadofboys5 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/dadofboys5/status/710647841299898368']14m14 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] It is valid through 2026-2027 season [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710648271128035329']12m12 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/dadofboys5']@dadofboys5[/URL] you will be shocked when Tobacco Road splits for greener pastures then [URL='https://twitter.com/dadofboys5'][B]DadofBoys[/B] ‏@dadofboys5 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/dadofboys5/status/710648685789511680']10m10 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] smh [URL='https://twitter.com/AndrewWamugi'][B]Andrew Wamugi[/B] ‏@AndrewWamugi [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/AndrewWamugi/status/710648364623224832']13m13 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] OU and UT in opposite divisions is the opposite of FSU/Miami, Ohio State/Michigan USC/UCLA, Florida/Georgia [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B]‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/AndrewWamugi']@AndrewWamugi[/URL] they'd be permanent cross rivals. The chance of getting that game twice adds huge value to the game. [URL='https://twitter.com/AndrewWamugi'][B]Andrew Wamugi[/B] ‏@AndrewWamugi [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/AndrewWamugi/status/710651556270514178']3m3 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3']@MH ver3[/URL] it will be interesting in a few years when 12/14 team Power 5 leagues look small compared to up north and SEC. [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3'][B]MH ver3[/B] ‏@MH ver3 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/710651888404815873']now1 minute ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/AndrewWamugi']@AndrewWamugi[/URL] the breakaway will happen in the next 10 years or so. That's when CFB will change forever. Probably not for the better. ME: Yeah, Colorado would love to be part of that mess again. Hahahahahaha! ROTFL :D [/QUOTE]

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