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Message: [QUOTE="CoastAtlantic, post: 1612653, member: 5174"] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707936175437258753']7h7 hours ago[/URL] But... The ACC is on the hotseat... like it or not. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707937129746268160']7h7 hours ago[/URL] The initial feedback from BHV in advance of the May report is that the Big 12 network would be very, very profitable (Using Trump speak). [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707937961866870785']7h7 hours ago[/URL] The funny thing is the B1G has said publicly 3 times they would target the ACC in their next round of expansion - no secret. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707938064199499777']7h7 hours ago[/URL] They want the ACC's AAU schools. [URL='https://twitter.com/derekredd'][B]Derek Redd[/B] ‏@derekredd [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/derekredd/status/707938130767306752']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] If we're going w/ Trump-speak, wouldn't the proper terminology be "YOOOOOOJ?" [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/derekredd']@derekredd[/URL] It's going to be big, very big. It will be wonderful. The best KU- UCONN game on the planet. Trust me it will be big & wonderful [URL='https://twitter.com/KilroyFSU'][B]KilroyFSU[/B] ‏@KilroyFSU [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KilroyFSU/status/707938878108270592']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] But again, are they willing to go to court to challenge the GOR? And if the school loses, will the B1G cover them? [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KilroyFSU']@KilroyFSU[/URL] I think the key is what Swofford told FSU BoT members. That's a little fishy how they went about it. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707939270393249792']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KilroyFSU']@KilroyFSU[/URL] But I really think the B1G overestimates UVA's desire to leave the ACC for cash. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707939605740449792']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/KilroyFSU']@KilroyFSU[/URL] The word on the street is ESPN will pass on ACCN to do the B12N. It makes more money for them & erases the LHN losses. [URL='https://twitter.com/mcgoblue'][B]Matthew D Carlson[/B] ‏@mcgoblue [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/mcgoblue/status/707939368837718016']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] what kind of timeline do you expect? Who do you think would move to the BIG10? [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707939836708188160']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/mcgoblue']@mcgoblue[/URL] B1G only cares about AAU schools. So UVA, UNC, Duke, GT. Pick 2... [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707939946879913989']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/mcgoblue']@mcgoblue[/URL] UVA is the big prize to the B1G. But don't assume UVA would leave. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707940178741108737']7h7 hours ago[/URL] "Look at my hands! See how big my hands are? Well the B12N will be bigger than my giant.... which is bigger than my hands." [URL='https://twitter.com/Juddrock'][B]Justin A. McNabb[/B] ‏@Juddrock [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Juddrock/status/707943718846930944']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] also sounds like Florida schools theory is out. (USF UCF) ESPN doesn't want to strong arm cable providers in Fl again bc of SEC [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Juddrock']@Juddrock[/URL] Unless.... ;-) [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Juddrock']@Juddrock[/URL] 380 miles. [URL='https://twitter.com/Juddrock'][B]Justin A. McNabb[/B] ‏@Juddrock [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Juddrock/status/707944649596538880']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] yessir. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707944663865544704']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg']@gampel_2_msg[/URL] Tony was accurate. BHV report is not finalized. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707944788478337025']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg']@gampel_2_msg[/URL] The ACC stuff is real too.. although... previously expressed doubts about UVA leaving are still there. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707944903091871744']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg']@gampel_2_msg[/URL] But if ESPN says it's going with B12N instead of ACCN then pencil FSU as a member of the Big 12. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707945243778400256']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Juddrock']@Juddrock[/URL] Nobody is out yet. Nobody is in... but UC and UCONN should be optimistic. Remember 14 is the number. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] Cincy and UCONN fans needs to listen to this: [URL='https://post original url/Wu79DRLkOr']http://media.wvmetronews.com/media/03091671810-SportslineforWednesdayMarch92016.mp3…[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Juddrock'][B]Justin A. McNabb[/B] ‏@Juddrock [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Juddrock/status/707945749275918336']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] I think 16 will be the finale. 4 super conferences of 16 will happen before 2025 [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]hristopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707945941869924352']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Juddrock']@Juddrock[/URL] Maybe... never thought the Big 12 would make it. Looks like now it will. [URL='https://twitter.com/Juddrock'][B]Justin A. McNabb[/B] ‏@Juddrock [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Juddrock/status/707946311941799936']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] they'd be ignorant to piss away, potentially the #2 most lucrative conference in all of NCAA. Don't see them passing sec ever [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707946899228266496']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Juddrock']@Juddrock[/URL] Looks like market duplication - both within the ACC and ACC against the SEC - is what keeps the Big 12 intact. [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg'][B]Storrs South[/B] ‏@gampel_2_msg [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg/status/707942315650891776']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] for the lazy, skip to 8:30. Says expansion is likely. Hearing UC & UConn, also BYU but past has shown difficult to deal with [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg']@gampel_2_msg[/URL] Difficult means Sunday play. [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg'][B]Storrs South[/B] ‏@gampel_2_msg [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg/status/707942477731389444']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] also goes into detail about B10 looking to raid ACC [URL='https://twitter.com/Pogalo'][B]Zac Pogue[/B] ‏@Pogalo [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Pogalo/status/707945679457361924']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg']@gampel_2_msg[/URL] In that situation, could we throw Clemson in there too?? [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707945812207263744']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Pogalo']@Pogalo[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg']@gampel_2_msg[/URL] One assumes yes... [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg'][B]Storrs South[/B] ‏@gampel_2_msg [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg/status/707947219857620993']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Pogalo']@Pogalo[/URL] so in that scenario 11. UC 12. UConn 13. FSU 14. Clemson? or are they 15 and 16? [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707952552382439424']7h7 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg']@gampel_2_msg[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Pogalo']@Pogalo[/URL] Network first. Then talk. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707974701029707776']5h5 hours ago[/URL] MH VER is crazy. Does he really think the fact the B1G is after AAU schools in the ACC is news to anyone? [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush'][B]Daniel Mountcastle[/B] ‏@Expansion_Crush [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush/status/707977483665145857']5h5 hours ago[/URL][URL='https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A018598cc2360b49e']Atlanta, IN[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] there's nothing out there to support him or utini, or a few others I can think of. They prey on the expansionist message boards [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush']@Expansion_Crush[/URL] UVA has rebuffed the B1G before. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707977837526040577']5h5 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush']@Expansion_Crush[/URL] In my opinion the only schools who would leave the ACC willingly are FSU and NCSt. Neither fit the B1G profile. [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush'][B]Daniel Mountcastle[/B] ‏@Expansion_Crush [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush/status/707978151767482368']5h5 hours ago[/URL][URL='https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A018598cc2360b49e']Atlanta, IN[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] and UVA and UNC would prefer the SEC to the Big Ten. Irregardless of what most think [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707978868183986176']5h5 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush']@Expansion_Crush[/URL] Not sure about UVA...but UNC does. Yet how much money would it take to get UVA? [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707979033418600450']5h5 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush']@Expansion_Crush[/URL] The other factor is that the talk in KC is ESPN will green light the Big 12 network and pass on ACCN. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707979212582473728']5h5 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Expansion_Crush']@Expansion_Crush[/URL] Not sure that will effect the ACC other than widening the gap between the Big 12 and ACC in terms of revenues. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707987978572931072']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NoelleMG66']@NoelleMG66[/URL] If you don't want to believe me go back and look at [URL='https://twitter.com/tsnmike']@tsnmike[/URL]'s story prior to the 2/4-5/16 Big 12 members. Maybe he has a link. [URL='https://twitter.com/NoelleMG66'][B]Noelle[/B] ‏@NoelleMG66 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NoelleMG66/status/707988235910311936']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tsnmike']@tsnmike[/URL] oh I agree! Thus my reaction [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NoelleMG66']@NoelleMG66[/URL] That doesn't mean UCONN and Cincy aren't added. I don't see anyway UCONN gets left out if they get credit for NYC. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707988208198524928']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NoelleMG66']@NoelleMG66[/URL] In the May meetings the Big 12 presidents will sit down & hear the BHV report. Then the games begin. Who can get the votes. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707988363069034498']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NoelleMG66']@NoelleMG66[/URL] Anybody who says the Big 12 has made a decision is making it up. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@flugempire[/URL] is making it up. Can I be any more clear? [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707988861545222144']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NoelleMG66']@NoelleMG66[/URL] But I'm certain 12 doesn't add enough content for a network. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707989103447564290']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NoelleMG66']@NoelleMG66[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@flugempire[/URL] claimed that UC president Ono followed him as proof his info was accurate. But couldn't prove it. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707989287711739908']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NoelleMG66']@NoelleMG66[/URL] He gave a screenshot of a message board post as proof even though I sent him a link to Twitter's help desk for him use. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707989499154964481']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NoelleMG66']@NoelleMG66[/URL] Picking expansion candidates is a process that's only just begun. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707989611771994113']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NoelleMG66']@NoelleMG66[/URL] The Big 12 can't afford to not pick the combos that add the most value to the Big 12. Thus no schools have been selected yet. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/707990099049508864']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NoelleMG66']@NoelleMG66[/URL] Take the top 4 markets available and use that as a starting point. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/708049868401598464']15m15 minutes ago[/URL] A respected expert on the ACC tells me that UVA has issues with the structure of the B1G sports mecha. [/QUOTE]

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