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Message: [QUOTE="CoastAtlantic, post: 1604744, member: 5174"] [B][URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']Fa[/URL][/B][URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider'][B]therOfRog[/B] ‏@MasterInsider [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider/status/705757934953766912']5h5 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] There are far more BYU eyes on sets outside of Utah and in the US than there are in Utah. BYU markets can not be measured. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] Exactly. Cannot be measured. [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider'][B]FatherOfRog[/B] ‏@MasterInsider [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider/status/705760497606340609']5h5 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] Not everything can be fairly measured. If you know it is there and clearly more than double what can be measured - consider it. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/705766712126398464']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] I've tried to explain over & over again the way it works. No goodwill. It's strictly cable homes within a DMA. [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag'][B]Maximus[/B] ‏@IRaiseMyFlag [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag/status/705766510581698560']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] True but how is that diff from a DMA. It really isn't except one is geographic, the other is demographic. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag']@IRaiseMyFlag[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] One can be charged a carriage fee the other can't. [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag'][B]Maximus[/B] ‏@IRaiseMyFlag [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag/status/705768152009990145']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] And LDS demographic'segment' has a higher propensity for product selection than a poly segmented geographic mkt. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/705770458256424960']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag']@IRaiseMyFlag[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] That's illegal and impossible. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/705770318279925760']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag']@IRaiseMyFlag[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] Do you think for one second that the Big 12 would resist charging every LDS household in the U.S. a premium fee [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag']@IRaiseMyFlag[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] I agree with you on BYU's worth. I'm just explaining how the system works. [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag'][B]Maximus[/B] ‏@IRaiseMyFlag [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag/status/705771257145532416']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] Copy that. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag']@IRaiseMyFlag[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] BYU has a better chance than most want to believe. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag']@IRaiseMyFlag[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] Flugar and MHVER are absolutely 100% wrong when they say school A or school B is a lock. Don't listen to them. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag']@IRaiseMyFlag[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] The Big 12 hasn't selected any schools. All we can do is guess what metrics will be more significant. [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag'][B]Maximus[/B] ‏@IRaiseMyFlag [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag/status/705772264260804608']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] There is a human dynamic that can't be fully ignored. Some will make the metrics say what they "want". [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/705773066517946368']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag']@IRaiseMyFlag[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] Data lies - at least on the superficial level. The B12 is going deep.... deep analytics. [URL='https://twitter.com/Tobi_Sports'][B]Tobi_Sports[/B] ‏@Tobi_Sports [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Tobi_Sports/status/705634570457100289']13h13 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] just consider the value of Louisville to the central northern members of the big 12 why would Pitt trump their wants? [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Tobi_Sports']@Tobi_Sports[/URL] Backyard Brawl I would think. WVU and Pitt have over 100 years of hate and equity in that rivalry. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag']@IRaiseMyFlag[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] One of these guys claiming to know which schools are locks emailed me yesterday... this is long but telling. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/705772321462685698']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag']@IRaiseMyFlag[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] He said that Prez A of School X had followed him on Twitter thus proving his info was accurate. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/705772474877808640']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag']@IRaiseMyFlag[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] When pressed he provided a screenshot of a message board post from a 3rd party saying the Prez had followed. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/705772625298071552']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag']@IRaiseMyFlag[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] That's the standard those guys use. 3rd hand hearsay is good enough for them. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag']@IRaiseMyFlag[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] The Prez he claimed was following him wasn't. His only proof was that screen shot of a message board post. [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag'][B]Maximus[/B] ‏@IRaiseMyFlag [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag/status/705773149938425858']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] I appreciate your objectivity. I trust that. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/705773329932746752']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/IRaiseMyFlag']@IRaiseMyFlag[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/MasterInsider']@MasterInsider[/URL] Thanks... [URL='https://twitter.com/Bearcatmac'][B]MAC[/B] ‏@Bearcatmac [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bearcatmac/status/705774188741529600']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/zthedges']@zthedges[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tayjoyce88']@tayjoyce88[/URL] Three P5s in Florida already and one in Ohio. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bearcatmac']@Bearcatmac[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/zthedges']@zthedges[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tayjoyce88']@tayjoyce88[/URL] Why can't we just wait until BHV does their thing? [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg'][B]torrs South[/B] ‏@gampel_2_msg [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg/status/705807806365114369']2h2 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bearcatmac']@Bearcatmac[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/zthedges']@zthedges[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tayjoyce88']@tayjoyce88[/URL] I thought we were waiting on the data from two firms? [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/705810928932155392']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg']@gampel_2_msg[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bearcatmac']@Bearcatmac[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/zthedges']@zthedges[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tayjoyce88']@tayjoyce88[/URL] Yea... forgive my brevity. [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg'][B]Storrs South[/B] ‏@gampel_2_msg [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/gampel_2_msg/status/705813377138958336']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Bearcatmac']@Bearcatmac[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/zthedges']@zthedges[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tayjoyce88']@tayjoyce88[/URL] no problem. I just haven't heard about the other firm in a while [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/705776586742751232']4h4 hours ago[/URL] Let me be clear on something and leave no doubt. The Big 12 hasn't made any decisions on expansion. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/705776765202001920']4h4 hours ago[/URL] That means the decision to expand hasn't been made nor have any schools been selected, offered or tabbed. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/705776874874650624']4h4 hours ago[/URL] The conference is focused on the issue of a network. Until that issue is resolved int he positive expansion is dead. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/705777033519960064']4h4 hours ago[/URL] Anybody who tells you that school A or school B is the pick of the Big 12 has no idea what they are talking about. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/705777282825240576']4h4 hours ago[/URL] Expansion is completely dead unless the Big 12 launches a network. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/705777510353600512']4h4 hours ago[/URL] If the Big 12 does launch a network they will ask certain P5 schools if they are interested first. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/705777595531587586']4h4 hours ago[/URL] That's just the way it is... [URL='https://twitter.com/NebGradDubDub'][B]Doug[/B] ‏@NebGradDubDub [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NebGradDubDub/status/705782055762661376']3h3 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] B12 contract guarantees 20 million per school added up to 12 teams. So expansion adds 40 million in TV + title game money. [URL='https://twitter.com/NebGradDubDub'][B]Doug[/B] ‏@NebGradDubDub [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NebGradDubDub/status/705782546680811520']3h3 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] so.....does OU really want to extend the GOR for that? We must assume reduced payouts for UC/BYU. The rest is for network costs [URL='https://twitter.com/NebGradDubDub'][B]Doug[/B] ‏@NebGradDubDub [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NebGradDubDub/status/705782911878836225']3h3 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] I'm still in the camp that a new B10 contract has a massive impact on whether OU/UT/KU like what they see with B12 future $$ [URL='https://twitter.com/JMichaelYoung1'][B]J. Michael Young[/B] ‏@JMichaelYoung1 [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/JMichaelYoung1/status/705777336927461376']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@theDudeofWV[/URL] I can't see the network issue getting resolved, since Texas fans have fallen in love with the LHN. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@theDudeofWV [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/JMichaelYoung1']@JMichaelYoung1[/URL] It will... I'm almost certain. Texas has already passed it on to ESPN to decide. [/QUOTE]

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