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Message: [QUOTE="DarthGrumpy, post: 1542725, member: 2141"] My view of the XII should Oklahoma leave because of the Sooners do figure out how to bolt in advance of the GOR expiring, the conference is dead because without Oklahoma, the XII offers little value to Texas and Texas will bolt because Texas only cars about Texas. P4 = ACC, B1G, PAC, & SEC. G4 = MAC, Conf USA + AAC, Sunbelt, Mountain West [LIST] [*]Baylor - P4 [LIST] [*]ACC: Unlikely, only if the ACC takes U Texas and needs additional teams in Texas to get to 20 programs [*]B1G: None [*]PAC: Unlikely, only if desperate to get to 20 programs and has no other options [*][U][B]SEC[/B][/U]: Possible if SEC wants to get 20 and decides it needs a second program in Texas, which the state can support, that does not threaten A&M nor carry the baggage that U Texas does [/LIST] [*]Iowa State - [I][B]G4[/B][/I] [LIST] [*]ACC: None [*]B1G: None, has Iowa [*]PAC: Unlikely, only if desperate to get to 20 programs and has no other options [*]SEC: None, not going that far north [/LIST] [*]Kansas - P4 [LIST] [*]ACC: None [*][U][B]B1G[/B][/U]: Likely depending on which way the B1G wants to expand, East versus Southwest, with Basketball, AAU status and land bridge to Oklahoma being of interest; but, will not take them if Kansas St is a requirement [*]PAC: None, B1G or SEC will take them first [*]SEC: Possible as would significantly add to SEC basketball and would pair nicely with Missouri [/LIST] [*]Kansas St - G4 [LIST] [*]ACC: None [*]B1G: None [*][U][B]PAC[/B][/U]: Possible if the PAC wants to get to 20 programs [*]SEC: Slight possibility if the SEC wants 20 programs as they offer decent football [/LIST] [*]Oklahoma - P4 (guaranteed) [LIST] [*]ACC: None, B1G, PAC or SEC would get there first [*][U][B]B1G[/B][/U]: Likely depending on which way the B1G wants to expand, East versus Southwest, assuming B1G can get over AAU status and possible contiguous footprint issue (solved by adding Kansas) while adding huge football brand and makes other members (Nebraska) very happy, Oklahoma has expressed interest [*]PAC: Unlikely just because the B1G and SEC would get the Sooners first and would only go to the PAC as a package deal to get Okalahoma [*]SEC: Likely if the B1G does not add them first, would add a major football brand to the SEC and decent basketball [/LIST] [*]Oklahoma St - P4 [LIST] [*]ACC: Unlikely as PAC or SEC would get there first [*]B1G: None, even if taking Oklahoma requires that the B1G takes Oklahoma State [*]PAC: Possible as part of a package deal with other XII teams, PAC has expressed interest before [*][U][B]SEC[/B][/U]: Likely with or without Oklahoma as the have a decent football and basketball products, opens-up a new market to the SEC and access to a deep pocketed donor [/LIST] [*]U Texas - P4 (guaranteed) [LIST] [*]ACC: Likely if the ACC is foolish enough to offer Texas a 'ND like' deal where the Long Horns can keep the LHN [*][U][B]B1G[/B][/U]: Possible as they match well on and off the field; but, Texas would have to learn how to play nice with others [*]PAC: Likely if no 'special' deal from the ACC is available and this option would likely allow Texas to take care of its cousin, Texas Tech, prior discussions already conformed interest [*]SEC: Unlikely as while on paper looks like a perfect match of major football powerhouses, Texas has shown it wants special treatment and Alabama, Florida, LSU won't give them such, plus A&M would likely block [*]Wildcard: Independent [/LIST] [*]TCU - [B]G4[/B] [LIST] [*]ACC: Unlikely, only if the ACC takes U Texas and needs additional teams in Texas to get to 20 programs [*]B1G: None [*]PAC: Unlikely, only if desperate to get to 20 programs and has no other options [*]SEC: Unlikely, same as Baylor above, i.e. second Texas team with less baggage; but, Baylor offers more than TCU [/LIST] [*]Texas Tech - P4 [LIST] [*]ACC: Unlikely, only feasible if part of a package deal with U Texas [*]B1G: None, even if they are part of a package deal with U Texas [*][U][B]PAC[/B][/U]: Likely, as part of a package deal with U Texas or with the remainders of the XII in an effort to get to 20 programs [*]SEC: None [/LIST] [*]West Virginia - P4 [LIST] [*][B]ACC[/B]: Likely, a backfill option should the B1G (UVA, V Tech, UNC) or SEC (V Tech, UNC, NC State, Louisville) steal a team [*]B1G: None [*]PAC: None [*]SEC: Unlikely, unless the SEC needs to backfill should a team that the B1G steals (Missouri) or if the conference expands to 20 and wants to challenge to the B1G in the Midwest (OH & PA) with a decent football brand [/LIST] [/LIST] [/QUOTE]

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