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Message: [QUOTE="jostar1, post: 1325367, member: 1737"] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599192765822558208']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] To those foolishly arguing about the Big 12's GoR last night. I give you the Big 12's bylaws. [URL='http://post original url/NKTwJ6pveI']pic.twitter.com/NKTwJ6pveI[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599192765822558208/photo/1'] [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFDCpTVVIAQ94f1.jpg:large[/IMG][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599192902783361024']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] The key part in that segment is the withdrawing member will not get any payments but is still bound by the GoR. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599193095813595137']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] Notice here that the bylaws separate the GoR provision from the withholding of funds plus adds some more teeth... [URL='http://post original url/OqLHol1yqT']pic.twitter.com/OqLHol1yqT[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599193095813595137/photo/1'] [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFDC8g0UsAElXkP.jpg:large[/IMG][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599193261790605312']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] What this says is that if any school leaves the B12 before the GoR has expired not only do the rights remain but the members agree that [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599193511532060672']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] leaving would damage the Big 12 and the departing school would be forced to pay the conf damages (cont) [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599193679199350784']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] damages as defined as the $ they would have received for the remaining term of the GoR. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599193819620450304']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] This is the buyout & doesn't negate the GoR which is clearly still in effect... the last part of that is a killer. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599193892081278976']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] It says that all members agree that these provisions are not punitive. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599194039376838656']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] Also in the bylaws is a little ditty that says if any member is contacted by another conference they have to notify the conf of contact. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599194094158684160']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] Or guess what.... damages.... [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599194244797038592']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] So in the Big 12 GoR we have terms that each member agreed to... consideration n the form of the bonus & ongoing compensation. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599194388858810369']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] The terms of the bylaws (which is a contract) are legal & each president of every Big 12 school has signed it. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599194535466500096']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] So the price tag of leaving the Big 12 is no tv rights for the term of the GoR + about $450 million. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599194609391149056']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] I'm going to be mean on this one. I'm going to be rude. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599194726978473985']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] If you think for one second the Big 12 GoR would ever be challenged you are an idiot. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599194842590228480']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] I said if you believe for one second that the Big 12 GoR would be challenged you are a total & complete IDIOT. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599194986257743873']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] Why because a GoR has a mountain of case history supporting it & in contract law if you signed it & its not illegal then its valid. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599195344350633984']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] Again a meeting of the minds occurred, legal terms were agreed to, the GoR & bylaws were signed & consideration was given. End of story. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599195672420687872']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NebGradDubDub']@[B]NebGradDubDub[/B][/URL] Two years ago I spoke to the attorney who actually wrote the book on GoR used in most law schools. He has since passed away. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599195832202743808']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NebGradDubDub']@[B]NebGradDubDub[/B][/URL] But he reviewed the Big12 GoR and the bylaws and he said no attorney would ever tell a client the Big 12 GoR could be [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599195858555564032']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NebGradDubDub']@[B]NebGradDubDub[/B][/URL] successfully challenged. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599196438090907648']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] I'm sorry to hurt feelings and I don't mean to offend. But the very thought of the Big 12's GoR being challenged is batshit crazy. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599196541467885570']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] No school would take the risk. No conference would take the risk. The risk can't be justified. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599197866431746048']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] So the next time you hear someone say, or write on a message board or Twitter, that the Big 12 is vulnerable- call bullshit. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599198831268515840']58m 58 minutes ago [/URL] (By the way the ACC GoR is modeled after the Big 12 GoR & you can expect similar language in the ACC bylaws). [B]Christopher Lambert ‏@theDudeofWV [/B] · 1h1 hour ago So produce just one attorney... just one who is willing to go to court to challenge it. You can't. [B]Doug ‏@NebGradDubDub [/B]· 10m10 minutes ago @theDudeofWV here is an attorney from Phoenix Myth of the Big 12's Grant of rights [URL]http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/myth-of-the-big-12s-grant-of-rights-010313[/URL] … via @FoxSports [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/599211558774898688']14m 14 minutes ago [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/NebGradDubDub']@[B]NebGradDubDub[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/FOXSports']@[B]FOXSports[/B][/URL] I've read that...it's wrong.. Find a single attorney who would advise it could be successfully challenged. [/QUOTE]

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