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Message: [QUOTE="CoastAtlantic, post: 1236031, member: 5174"] [B]Greg Flugaur[/B]‏@[B]flugempire[/B] The biggest difference between myself and others such as [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] when it comes to future expansion/realignment is how we look at past.. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] @flugempire [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569898203140632577']7h 7 hours ago [/URL] ...expansion of the SEC & Big Ten. While many do not think the SEC or Big Ten has benefited from their new additions...and do not believe... [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'] [B]Greg Flugaur[/B] @flugempire [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569898554942074880']7h 7 hours ago [/URL] ..in the power of the SECN & BTN to mold the future of conferences and their eventual makeup....I have no doubts about the massive success.. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] @flugempire [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569899014201544704']7h 7 hours ago [/URL] ...of the SEC additions of Texas A&M & Missouri/Big Ten additions of Rutgers & Maryland. And because of this success of grabbing bigger... [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] @flugempire [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569899326035468289']7h 7 hours ago [/URL] ...market share and monetizing the new markets...I have no doubts success of expansion breeds more expansion. And there are no doubts to.. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] @flugempire [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569899719889002497']7h 7 hours ago [/URL] ...those who I talk with. To be clear...if you sit with the perception that the SEC & Big Ten did not benefit so much...well...you think... [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] @flugempire [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569900195917344768']7h 7 hours ago [/URL] ...expansion will not happen in future. The most important thing is what perception does Texas/OU/UVA/VT/KU have in the last rd of expansion [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] @flugempire [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569900682666356736']7h 7 hours ago [/URL] If the Rutgers & UMD additions were not successful the Big Ten would wait a generation. But the additions were a smashing success. Why? [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] @flugempire [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569901144908001280']7h 7 hours ago [/URL] I'm going to let the answer play out itself when the public soon gets a look the the increase in REV when budgets of 2013/14 come out. And.. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] @flugempire [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569901421321019392']7h 7 hours ago [/URL] ...when people see projections going into the next 3 years and the differences between conferences. It's going to be staggering. Watch. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] @flugempire [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569901851887284224']7h 7 hours ago [/URL] When a private or public institution or organization does an action which breeds prosperity for the Inst/Org..it does the same action again [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/569936316638457856']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@[B]flugempire[/B][/URL] The only real difference is I think the B1G will target the ACC again. Big 12 schools don't solve their problems. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/569936511455531009']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@[B]flugempire[/B][/URL] The B1G can add more $ to their kitty & have a footprint in the southeast for recruiting by way of the ACC. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/569936624588443648']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@[B]flugempire[/B][/URL] They can't get nearly as much $ or the recruiting presence they need by going after the Big 12. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/569936813894144000']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@[B]flugempire[/B][/URL] And lets not forget two important factors. B12 schools were paid $6 million each for signing the GoR & ACC schools paid nothing. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/569936932714606592']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@[B]flugempire[/B][/URL] And Fox is likely to be the primary partner for both the B1G and the Big 12. Fox doesn't want the Big 12 devalued. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@[B]flugempire[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569937621411094528']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] I agree with all that...where we disagree is how much Texas & Oklahoma are looking at the exit signs 10+ years down the road... [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/569938127508234240']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@[B]flugempire[/B][/URL] Heck, we don't even know their value 10 years from now.... [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@[B]flugempire[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569938165856915457']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] I believe Oklahoma & Texas know the Big 12 business will not hold up. As many Big 12 fans scoff at today's SECN payouts..... [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@[B]flugempire[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569938633450516480']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] OU & UT know better....they now know the conference networks and the big markets of SEC/B1G have the ability to grow... [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/569938739234910208']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@[B]flugempire[/B][/URL] Word from the last meetings in Dallas is they expect a huge payday from Fox with new contract. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@[B]flugempire[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569939516028534784']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] Why? Big 12 does not carry value to the AD buyers as a whole...small footprint. I love the football...but it's ratings not good [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/569939700120621056']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@[B]flugempire[/B][/URL] Ratings not good on Fox. Fine on ESPN. WVU averaged a 2.6 [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@[B]flugempire[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569939991796850689']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] Look at the OU/Texas game ratings...small footprint in the conference is slowly eating away at the value of historic game [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@[B]flugempire[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569940289714053120']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] Big 12 fans say it's because of bad time slots...and wrong channel. But how do you improve your leverage with FOX?.... [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/569940571675979776']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@[B]flugempire[/B][/URL] Fox will grow. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@[B]flugempire[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569940623660326912']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] You can't improve Big 12 leverage by having the Boulder in the road(Bowlsby words) of the LHN(Disney) Big 12 has structural... [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@[B]flugempire[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569940860101648384']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] ...issues that will not be overcome unless Oklahoma and Texas go all-in with the conference...much like Ohio St with Big Ten [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@[B]flugempire[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569941343436304384']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] I see no evidence of Oklahoma and Texax going all-in....I see the 2 being ok with a small footprint conf with pathway exit 2025 [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@[B]flugempire[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/569944092513329152']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] ESPN/ABC will continue to get big piece of Big Ten product in the new TV deal...another pressure point on FOX in pushing B1Gexp [URL='https://twitter.com/knightbengal'][B]ucf #noflyzone[/B] ‏@[B]knightbengal[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/knightbengal/status/569995597043916800']20m20 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@[B]flugempire[/B][/URL] fox has good network penetration but lacks content. 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