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Message: [QUOTE="FfldCntyFan, post: 1165578, member: 71"] As does Duke. Duke had the Duke family (and changed its name from Trinity not quite a century ago) as its benefactor and RJ Reynolds followed their example with Wake (although Wake did not change the school's name). I'm still convinced that the P-5 autonomy move was expedited by Wake (while their president was in a position to influence the direction of P-5 college football) out of fear that if they did not do something to protect themselves while they could, at some point they would be eliminated (as they are basically a lesser redundancy of Duke). The ACC would lose zero in terms of market footprint and and high profile athletics if Wake were voted off the island. Wake knows this and likely felt that the next step in this process would be to weed out all redundancies; if an analysis were performed on what value each school independently adds to their conference, Wake would be a loss as replacing them with anyone outside of North Carolina would add something and NC St would be negligible, although they could add value to another conference, which would provide some incentive for the ACC to want them around. It could easily be argued that no school in any P-5 conference is less important to their conference than Wake. [/QUOTE]