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Message: [QUOTE="CoastAtlantic, post: 1107648, member: 5174"] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527655450037465089']1h1 hour ago[/URL] If you are paying attention Bowlsby shot down the idea of B12 expansion today & the possibility of a B12 network. [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj'][B]AJ Tech[/B] ‏@[B]tech_aj[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj/status/527656190189510656']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] interesting that he called out LHN as a "boulder in the road" of a conference network [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527656498089189377']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj']@[B]tech_aj[/B][/URL] It is. If a network came about it would most likely be with Fox. Who had the LHN contract - ESPN. [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj'][B]AJ Tech[/B] ‏@[B]tech_aj[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj/status/527656703912054784']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] interesting he actually came out and said it though. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527657090433949697']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj']@[B]tech_aj[/B][/URL] Most likely to end rumors. B12 has done the before - just to quash. [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj'][B]AJ Tech[/B] ‏@[B]tech_aj[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj/status/527658552782245888']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] he did use some language about "morphing" around it though. Seemed more concerned on where future product would be distributed. [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj'][B]AJ Tech[/B] ‏@[B]tech_aj[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj/status/527658777961844736']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] maybe not concerned, but interested [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527658832567472128']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj']@[B]tech_aj[/B][/URL] You know what he means. I know what he means. Still too early to talk about. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527659180556296193']1h1 hour ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj']@[B]tech_aj[/B][/URL] It's damn clear ESPN will try & use the LHN to pull UT to the ACC. UT doesn't like the travel to WV - that could be good. [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj'][B]AJ Tech[/B] ‏@[B]tech_aj[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj/status/527659760083279872']59m59 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] yes, only would get worse in ACC. I think they would like more east coast penetration and recognition though. [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj'][B]AJ Tech[/B] ‏@[B]tech_aj[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj/status/527660178699997184']57m57 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] ACC image is taking a beating now though [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527660442597199872']56m56 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj']@[B]tech_aj[/B][/URL] 10 years is a long time [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527661464841363456']52m52 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj']@[B]tech_aj[/B][/URL] Tell me again how Pitt was added to beef up ACC football. [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj'][B]AJ Tech[/B] ‏@[B]tech_aj[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj/status/527662206041997312']49m49 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] more of a way to decimate Big East and consolidate ESPN power. Saved them money now only paying pennies to AAC. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527662502109528064']48m48 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj']@[B]tech_aj[/B][/URL] Yea. I was joking. ACC taking it on the chin now. [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj'][B]AJ Tech[/B] ‏@[B]tech_aj[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj/status/527663307579478016']45m45 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] I know. Any chance to point out the ESPN screw job can't be passed on. So called [URL='https://twitter.com/hashtag/SECBias?src=hash']#[B]SECBias[/B][/URL] is nothing to this. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527663916495962112']43m43 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj']@[B]tech_aj[/B][/URL] That's why I think a huge battle will be waged over the Big 12 between Fox & ESPN. Enough to keep UT & Texas in-house? Who knows? [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj'][B]AJ Tech[/B] ‏@[B]tech_aj[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/tech_aj/status/527665438151692288']37m37 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] the Big Ten negotiations and how that plays out in the few yrs after that is finalized will be key to strategies for all [URL='https://twitter.com/Y4LYFE'][B]Y4LYFE[/B] ‏@[B]Y4LYFE[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Y4LYFE/status/527669753574207488']19m19 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BYUswag']@[B]BYUswag[/B][/URL] I thought Marshall had a shot at being the next TcU in terms of B12 expansion. E.g, new team same market [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527670229426774017']18m18 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Y4LYFE']@[B]Y4LYFE[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BYUswag']@[B]BYUswag[/B][/URL] You joke right? What do you know about MU? You have to be trolling me. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527670668905963520']19m19 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Y4LYFE']@[B]Y4LYFE[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BYUswag']@[B]BYUswag[/B][/URL] MU isn't on the radar for the AAC much less the B12. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527670935701438464']18m18 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Y4LYFE']@[B]Y4LYFE[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BYUswag']@[B]BYUswag[/B][/URL] MU has limited success by taking kids who can't qualify anywhere else. They average about 28k for games. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527671158267998208']17m17 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Y4LYFE']@[B]Y4LYFE[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BYUswag']@[B]BYUswag[/B][/URL] They lose $ every year even with > 25% of their budget comes from the state. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527671303948763136']17m17 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Y4LYFE']@[B]Y4LYFE[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BYUswag']@[B]BYUswag[/B][/URL] They haven't been at the FBS level very long & they haven't had much success. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527671546136252416']16m16 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Y4LYFE']@[B]Y4LYFE[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BYUswag']@[B]BYUswag[/B][/URL] The only reason they are winning thus year is because all the quality CUSA teams moved up to the AAC. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527671793017184256']15m15 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/Y4LYFE']@[B]Y4LYFE[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/BYUswag']@[B]BYUswag[/B][/URL] If UL was the last doughnut in the box then Marshall is the backwash at the bottom of your coke. [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6'][B]UTDrew6[/B] ‏@[B]UTDrew6[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6/status/527655305656942593']2h2 hours ago[/URL] Interesting take from Bowlsby here. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TruthOrBear247']@[B]TruthOrBear247[/B][/URL] [URL='http://post original url/DDkBH9qKRs']http://m.newsok.com/big-12-qa-with-big-12-commissioner-bob-bowlsby/article/5361578/?page=2…[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][COLOR=rgb(23, 96, 147)][B]Christopher Lambert[/B]‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/COLOR][/URL][URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527655691453218816'][COLOR=rgb(23, 96, 147)]1h1 hour ago[/COLOR][/URL] He said what I've been saying all along - not until the TV contract nears the end. [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6'][B]UTDrew6[/B] ‏@[B]UTDrew6[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6/status/527657081630109696']2h2 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TruthOrBear247']@[B]TruthOrBear247[/B][/URL] Yep. [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6'][B]UTDrew6[/B] ‏@[B]UTDrew6[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6/status/527665556867260417']58m58 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TruthOrBear247']@[B]TruthOrBear247[/B][/URL] To play devils advocate: Is UT (Pattesron) and ESPN looking at a face saving exit from LHN? [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6'][B]UTDrew6[/B] ‏@[B]UTDrew6[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6/status/527665829773848576']57m57 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TruthOrBear247']@[B]TruthOrBear247[/B][/URL] He says "they" did something an "we" are looking at morphing it. Who's "we". LHN=UT property not Big 12 [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527667486632988672']50m50 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6']@[B]UTDrew6[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TruthOrBear247']@[B]TruthOrBear247[/B][/URL] Why would UT want that? They have guaranteed $ with no risk. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527667806595457024']49m49 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6']@[B]UTDrew6[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TruthOrBear247']@[B]TruthOrBear247[/B][/URL] I think UT also gets either 1 or 2 additional games. Plus OU & WVU have long term T3 contracts. [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6'][B]UTDrew6[/B] ‏@[B]UTDrew6[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6/status/527667944307032064']48m48 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TruthOrBear247']@[B]TruthOrBear247[/B][/URL] Of course UT wouldn't want out. Escape clauses if certain sub thresholds weren't met. ESPn could back out. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527668083486625792']48m48 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6']@[B]UTDrew6[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TruthOrBear247']@[B]TruthOrBear247[/B][/URL] The other issue is who assumes risk. ESPN is heavily invested in the SECN. [B][URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527668409723797504']47m47 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6']@[B]UTDrew6[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TruthOrBear247']@[B]TruthOrBear247[/B][/URL] So much so that ESPN has been reluctant to pull the trigger on a ACCN. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527668615458590720']46m46 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6']@[B]UTDrew6[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TruthOrBear247']@[B]TruthOrBear247[/B][/URL] Plus the ACC has found that buying back rights isn't so easy. [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6'][B]TDrew6[/B] ‏@[B]UTDrew6[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6/status/527668445580914688']46m46 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TruthOrBear247']@[B]TruthOrBear247[/B][/URL] Simple. ESPN has an outclause in LHN contract with UT. There are pages of redacted pages in agreement. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527668937405001728']45m45 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6']@[B]UTDrew6[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TruthOrBear247']@[B]TruthOrBear247[/B][/URL] So ESPN is gong to opt out & hand Fox a deal? [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527669301885829120']43m43 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6']@[B]UTDrew6[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TruthOrBear247']@[B]TruthOrBear247[/B][/URL] ESPN would rather lure UT to the ACC & force ND in as 16 & fold LHN into ACCN. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527669377400045568']43m43 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6']@[B]UTDrew6[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TruthOrBear247']@[B]TruthOrBear247[/B][/URL] That's why I say a bidding war is brewing. [URL='https://twitter.com/volklgurl'][B]Shelby[/B] ‏@[B]volklgurl[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/volklgurl/status/527669382726836224']43m43 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6']@[B]UTDrew6[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] I read it as, ESPN makes the leap with the B12 to access other than satellite: Netflix, LHN app, etc. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527669605750546432']42m42 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6']@[B]UTDrew6[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TruthOrBear247']@[B]TruthOrBear247[/B][/URL] But there is no sway that ESPN turns LHN into a Big 12 network. [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6'][B]UTDrew6[/B] ‏@[B]UTDrew6[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6/status/527669783232544768']41m41 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/TruthOrBear247']@[B]TruthOrBear247[/B][/URL] That would be my dream scenario!! WVU would be SEC bound. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/527670051013656578']40m40 minutes ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/volklgurl']@[B]volklgurl[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6']@[B]UTDrew6[/B][/URL] aside from the LHN part you have it right. LHN is the barrier not the vehicle. [URL='https://twitter.com/volklgurl'][B]Shelby[/B] ‏@[B]volklgurl[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/volklgurl/status/527678702310924289']50s50 seconds ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/UTDrew6']@[B]UTDrew6[/B][/URL] Heck no. But even if conferences swap schools, there will still be holes left to fill. [/B] [/QUOTE]

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