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Message: [QUOTE="CoastAtlantic, post: 1104737, member: 5174"] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/526548544640278528']5h5 hours ago[/URL] An internal B12 memo Neinas discussed expansion with ESPN prez John Skipper, Fox Sports prez Randy Freer & ESPN's head Burke Magnus [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/526549063270141953']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Instead of adding FSU & Clemson the Big 12 agreed to not expand into SEC territory & partnered with the SEC on the Sugar Bowl. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/526549205389959168']5h5 hours ago[/URL] the Big 12 also worked with the ACC on legislation. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/526549590540300290']5h5 hours ago[/URL] So anybody who tries to tell you otherwise should be asked to explain their numbers & made to at least source a part of their BS. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/526550810348773377']5h5 hours ago[/URL] certain people out there like to troll based on anxiety. Anxiety that their school gets left out. Anxiety the B12 doesn't make the playoffs. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/526551104570818560']5h5 hours ago[/URL] Others trade integrity for clicks. They put out false info to fish for clicks from a fan base. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/526548699321999360']5h5 hours ago[/URL] both Fox & ESPN preferred the Big 12 not expand. Nothing has changed [URL='https://twitter.com/GreggHamlin'][B]BIG XII CHAMPION[/B] ‏@[B]GreggHamlin[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/GreggHamlin/status/526549360512094208']5h5 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] I remember you being one of the biggest advocates for expansion [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/526549712309342208']5h5 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/GreggHamlin']@[B]GreggHamlin[/B][/URL] Yeap. I was. I am. My opinion doesn't mean a lot to the Big 12. [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush'][B]Daniel Mountcastle[/B] ‏@[B]expansion_crush[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush/status/526551583782633472']5h5 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/GreggHamlin']@[B]GreggHamlin[/B][/URL] I think you're right, Greg. They won't be paying 10 for 12 for too much longer. [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush'][B]Daniel Mountcastle[/B] ‏@[B]expansion_crush[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush/status/526551719610953728']5h5 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/GreggHamlin']@[B]GreggHamlin[/B][/URL] Only problem is finding a team that doesn't dilute the product. [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush'][B]Daniel Mountcastle[/B] ‏@[B]expansion_crush[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush/status/526552186151784448']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/GreggHamlin']@[B]GreggHamlin[/B][/URL] UCF might be close if the truely get Orlando and central Florida. UNLV? [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush'][B]Daniel Mountcastle[/B] ‏@[B]expansion_crush[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush/status/526552348404252672']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/GreggHamlin']@[B]GreggHamlin[/B][/URL] BYU? UConn? Cincy? [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush'][B]Daniel Mountcastle[/B] ‏@[B]expansion_crush[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush/status/526552468428455936']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/GreggHamlin']@[B]GreggHamlin[/B][/URL] We have to wait 12 years to find out. [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush'][B]Daniel Mountcastle[/B] ‏@[B]expansion_crush[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush/status/526551953686691840']5h5 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/GreggHamlin']@[B]GreggHamlin[/B][/URL] I mean a school worth 22M$ a yr by themselves. Louisville was that team. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/526552816920584194']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush']@[B]expansion_crush[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/GreggHamlin']@[B]GreggHamlin[/B][/URL] No they were not. If they were the B12 would have invited them before UMD bolted. [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush'][B]Daniel Mountcastle[/B] ‏@[B]expansion_crush[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush/status/526553212510556161']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/GreggHamlin']@[B]GreggHamlin[/B][/URL] Were they ever entertained? [URL='https://twitter.com/GreggHamlin'][B]BIG XII CHAMPION[/B] ‏@[B]GreggHamlin[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/GreggHamlin/status/526553642816774144']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush']@[B]expansion_crush[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] Flirting more like it..... And man NCAA loves to flirt [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush'][B]Daniel Mountcastle[/B] ‏@[B]expansion_crush[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush/status/526553355519533056']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/GreggHamlin']@[B]GreggHamlin[/B][/URL] UMD moving came out of nowhere. No one was projecting that move. [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush'][B]Daniel Mountcastle[/B] ‏@[B]expansion_crush[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/expansion_crush/status/526553671577124864']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/GreggHamlin']@[B]GreggHamlin[/B][/URL] I think I read where Maryland and the Bog ten had been talking for about a year before they decided to move. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/526563299690033153']4h4 hours ago[/URL] and every ACC school has signed a GoR. The B12 would never challenge another conference's GoR for obvious reasons. [URL='https://twitter.com/safetyguyjoe'][B]Joseph M. Tortorice[/B] ‏@[B]safetyguyjoe[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/safetyguyjoe/status/526566340249653248']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] what are the odds the Big 12 gets to add quality schools relatively soon? We need fla schools for recruits, tvs, & perception [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/526567744071012352']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/safetyguyjoe']@[B]safetyguyjoe[/B][/URL] Nobody does that yet. There is only one viable scenario left & it isn't soon? [URL='https://twitter.com/safetyguyjoe'][B]Joseph M. Tortorice[/B] ‏@[B]safetyguyjoe[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/safetyguyjoe/status/526572288712269824']3h3 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] Need closer opponents to reduce travel costs for non rev sport for you guys. O. Luck meds to push that. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/526563051458547712']4h4 hours ago[/URL] so to close this rehash out let me add that any ACC school with a financial need to leave the ACC couldn't afford the exit fee. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@[B]flugempire[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/526566942178414594']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] If the correct school was willing the exit fee will be paid by Big 10 via a "travel budget" one time money. Example UMD [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@[B]flugempire[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/526567148647624704']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] This scenario becomes viable in 5 years. [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire'][B]Greg Flugaur[/B] ‏@[B]flugempire[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire/status/526566549797482497']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV']@[B]theDudeofWV[/B][/URL] I agree with everything you are saying....with one exception. Exit fee in 2019 will be small change vs gap between ACC & B1G [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] ‏@[B]theDudeofWV[/B] [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/526567494652551169']4h4 hours ago[/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/flugempire']@[B]flugempire[/B][/URL] I agree about revenue. If ND doesn't join as full member. ME: 2019 is too far out to know for sure. Nobody knows how the new Big Ten contract will shake out. [/QUOTE]

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