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Message: [QUOTE="jostar1, post: 1086145, member: 1737"] [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519654199596830720']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] Look, I don't want to insult any fan base. I just want to point out a few things about the economics of expansion. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519654615801815041']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] First conferences expand for really only 1 reason - to make money. No increase in revenues = no expansion. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519654973886324737']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] Secondly networks are reluctant to pay for expansion. CBS may not pursue the SEC over the SEC's expansion & $ the SEC wanted. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519655273875505154']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] The Big 12 is already receiving premium dollar. Their partners will not pay for expansion. They will not overpay for expansion. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519655583234805760']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] Because the Big 12 is already receiving premium $ any additions would have to bring premium $ with them. No school outside a P5 conf does. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519656161096654848']1h 1 hour ago [/URL] Expansion has a diminishing returns factor. Additions 15 & 16 have to bring in more $ than 13 & 14. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519656518421999618']60m 60 minutes ago [/URL] As worthy as ECU, UCF, Cincy, and USF are they don't merit enough $ to justify their addition to the Big 12 at the current time. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519656721166249985']60m 60 minutes ago [/URL] Remember carriage fees mean nothing to the Big 12. Other metrics are more important. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519657064470040576']58m 58 minutes ago [/URL] Metrics like Nielsen ratings, merchandising, season ticket sales, 10 year w-l record, bowl record. Top 25 finishes and many more. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519657438023127041']57m 57 minutes ago [/URL] Addition with the current tv contract would destabilize the Big 12 by reducing revenues. It's not happening today, tomorrow or in 4 weeks. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519660577971388416']45m 45 minutes ago [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/caingle']@[B]caingle[/B][/URL] nothing has changed. I'm pro B12 expansion. Nothing is happening. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519660812055494656']44m 44 minutes ago [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/caingle']@[B]caingle[/B][/URL] I'll give you another reason. Fox & ESPN share the Big 12 contract & both would have to agree to seriously overpay. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519661273324060676']43m 43 minutes ago [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/caingle']@[B]caingle[/B][/URL] Just for example if the B12 added 2schools the would have to generate an additional $70-90 million in TV revenue each year. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519661522872578048']42m 42 minutes ago [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/caingle']@[B]caingle[/B][/URL] And that's just to maintain revenues. 4 schools? That's $140-180 million each year. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519661901362388994']41m 41 minutes ago [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/caingle']@[B]caingle[/B][/URL] And why would he Big 12 expand? What's in it for the 10 current members? Less $ & fewer marquee games with UT & OU? [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519662096850497538']41m 41 minutes ago [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/caingle']@[B]caingle[/B][/URL] There isn't an escalator in effect. It's the opposite. Dollars stay the same no matter how many schools. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519662667984695297']39m 39 minutes ago [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/caingle']@[B]caingle[/B][/URL] Have you seen WVU's revenue projections? To maintain levels any addition must at least add $35 million each year. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519663020549480448']38m 38 minutes ago [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/caingle']@[B]caingle[/B][/URL] The B12 will be able to add a CCG with 10 members due to P5 autonomy. Estimates are another $2.5 million per member at 10 members. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519663983934967809']35m 35 minutes ago [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/caingle']@[B]caingle[/B][/URL] When the contract reopens the Big 12 will add - if it survives. How many they add is open to debate. 1 to 4. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519664317562515459']34m 34 minutes ago [/URL] [URL='https://twitter.com/caingle']@[B]caingle[/B][/URL] And the same source spreading this BS says Miami is so desperate for B12 $ they will spend $50 to exit & not have TV rights. [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV'][B]Christopher Lambert[/B] @theDudeofWV [/URL] · [URL='https://twitter.com/theDudeofWV/status/519664746144858112']33m 33 minutes ago [/URL] More tomorrow. Sorry to have to be such a downer. I really wish I could say otherwise. [/QUOTE]

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