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Message: [QUOTE="06029, post: 1037725, member: 1548"] Then UNC has lost almost all of its clout in the ACC since they allowed BC to choose Pitt and Cuse over Uconn and then they allowed Lville in to keep the FB schools happy. So their support is worth nothing. And NC is definitely more southern than say, CT, MA, NY and PA. Maybe not the schools in terms of the student body, but much of their fan base is very southern. I have been to games there. I have seen it first hand. And we are not even mentioning the most southern school of all in the ACC which is located in Raleigh which is closely followed by the VT fan base in terms of the typical "southern" stereotype fan. Clemson fans are clearly southeners, but they are more southern gentleman like than the other southener type you see at NC State and VT. Of course the most southern school of all in terms of stereotypes now plays in the Big 12, UWV. Red neck, piss bag throwing, toothless SOB's. [/QUOTE]