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Message: [QUOTE="tzznandrew, post: 5035220, member: 168"] The first and last time LeBron went to the Finals with the Cavs he was swept because of how bad his teams were. He gets credit for getting them there, but the East was so terrible that it's not nearly as impressive as claim. In 2007 he would have been a 6-seed in the West and gotten swept by the Spurs who swept him in the Finals. In 2018, they may have been the third best team in the NBA, but the gap between the Rockets/Warriors and the rest was huge. Place them out West and they're a second round team. What Moses did in 1981 was frankly more impressive. LeBron is great. I have Jordan #1 but I can see a claim for LeBron. This thread is absurd, though. [/QUOTE]