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Message: [QUOTE="Rocktheworld, post: 5034764, member: 5037"] you’re not paying close attention to arguments if this is how you think people are arguing. The real debate comes down to how infallible MJ’s resume is. And all people are doing when they indicate he didn’t win without a superstar beside him and a superstar on the sidelines (and he had to wait until the Pistons and Celtics got old) is bringing MJ back down to earth. Because his zealots need to be reminded as such. There is no implication that LeBron won championships with no stars beside him. Of note, he sure dragged many more bad rosters further than MJ ever did. Basically nobody wins in any team professional sport without help. At best you get teams like the 00s Pistons and this year’s Celtics who were a great overall roster with no all-time great player leading them. [/QUOTE]