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Message: [QUOTE="Pudge, post: 4178078, member: 364"] The interesting thing about Syracuse being down ... and swirling round the bowl ... is that it is the ENTIRE city and Central NY region. A pall over an entire area code. As an upstate NY kid, it is city with great chamber of commerce stickyness; but, frankly, a laggard based on pure commercial activity. You don't say that about Rochester, Buffalo or Capital Region. That school/that Program is important for the esprit d' corp of the region. The business community and the urban/suburban life. And while you might hint that it is "Upstate NY" team or "NYC" team; it's not. It's hold on Albany or Buffalo is far more potent when it is a top 10 than not. Like it was raging in 2004 when their Regional was at the Knickerbocker in Albany. But people don't travel to the Carrier if they suck - Greg Robinson era - and they won't if the Boeheim transition takes 5 years. Can they instantly move from this Jim Boeheim moment to a better construct within 5? Sure if they are lucky. We are a good model or we can cite 5 others. It ain't easy. I see this as a descent that we all saw coming; and one that they allowed JB concessions that were damaging. Including the sons. And yes Jim Calhoun was given one big concession too. [/QUOTE]