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Message: [QUOTE="freescooter, post: 5089852, member: 1023"] I’m not advocating that at all. I’m saying the PAC is seeking to become the non P4 power conference in basketball, a position currently held by the New Big East. I think the combination of members plus having a football league could enable them to succeed. I’m not convinced that the P2, never mind the P4 want more than 1 non-P4 basketball league. So I think this model could supplant the NEWBE. They will be the best G5 football league and a power hoop league. I don’t see a NEWBE program stepping up long term and we have 2 awful ones. [/QUOTE]