New Census Data

[Exit 4]

Fairfield County has added 23k since 2010 and Hartford County 4k while all other counties have lost population (-5k collectively). For perspective, NYC added 60k just this past year alone which is 3X CT's three year numerical growth total.

http://www.courant.com/news/data/hc...ticut-20140521,0,637311.htmlpage#.U34_bfldXvc

 

[RioDog]

I´m a little surprised that Ct had any populaion growth the last few years.

 

[AZHuskiePop]

The most shocking decline is Litchfield county.
Much of it is like Fairfield County with a heavy NY influence.

Also Bridgeport increasing is a little shock.

 

[WestHartHusk]

Just confirms what you can feel. We are re-urbanizing, many people do not want to live in the sticks anymore (jobs, entertainment, cost of commuting everywhere).

 

[Exit 4]

Just confirms what you can feel. We are re-urbanizing, many people do not want to live in the sticks anymore (jobs, entertainment, cost of commuting everywhere).

Right. But overall, its a rather weak snapshot for CT. Boston, NYC and points within an 1 of these cities are growing nicely, much faster than distant urban (New Haven) and definitely not shrinking like rural areas.

If B1G happens for UConn, I think could be helpful in turning the corner for interior CT and enhancing the sense of place.

 

[upstater]

Right. But overall, its a rather weak snapshot for CT. Boston, NYC and points within an 1 of these cities are growing nicely, much faster than distant urban (New Haven) and definitely not shrinking like rural areas.

If B1G happens for UConn, I think could be helpful in turning the corner for interior CT and enhancing the sense of place.

? Conn's rate of growth exceeds New York City's, so...

 

[MilliniumPrince]

? Conn's rate of growth exceeds New York City's, so...

I was going to ask this very thing.

 

[CTMike]

Right. But overall, its a rather weak snapshot for CT. Boston, NYC and points within an 1 of these cities are growing nicely, much faster than distant urban (New Haven) and definitely not shrinking like rural areas.

I disagree only in that this disproves that there's some mass exodus from CT. There isn't. We are flat to neutral, still population dense, still have relatively higher levels of income. Stable and with cash is pretty ok if you are looking to add a source of revenue for the next decade or two...

 

[BoatShow]

Just confirms what you can feel. We are re-urbanizing, many people do not want to live in the sticks anymore (jobs, entertainment, cost of commuting everywhere).

Drive through the "Quiet Corner" and you will have 3 questions. Who the hell actually lives here? Where do they possibly work? How do they entertain themselves?

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Drive through the "Quiet Corner" and you will have 3 questions. Who the hell actually lives here? Where do they possibly work? How do they entertain themselves?

Not so sure who lives in the Quiet Corner, but I suspect in addition to those towns some residents may work in Storrs, Norwich casinos, Worcester, and Providence. Not that many people live in Mansfield, it's interesting to see its population decreased. I had the impression a lot of late 90s/00s home construction occurred in Mansfield, but a growing UCONN may not be welcomed by all of the town's long canterkerous, NIMBY residents. Or, they moved somewhere to work or perhaps some simply went on their last walks to pasture.

 

[gars44]

Not so sure who lives in the Quiet Corner, but I suspect in addition to those towns some residents may work in Storrs, Norwich casinos, Worcester, and Providence. Not that many people live in Mansfield, it's interesting to see its population decreased. I had the impression a lot of late 90s/00s home construction occurred in Mansfield, but a growing UCONN may not be welcomed by all of the town's long canterkerous, NIMBY residents. Or, they moved somewhere to work or perhaps some simply went on their last walks to pasture.

I have a friend moving out of there for that reason. Very nice, formerly quiet neighborhood where half the houses are rented to students. Moving to Coventry to get away from them.

 

[Vowelguy]

Bridgeport Metro Area (Fairfield Cty) = 2.6% pop growth 2010-13

That doesn't crack the top 100 among the nation's 350+ metro areas.

These areas may be growing, but they are losing ground to other parts of the country that are growing faster. That is UConn's problem - its share of the pie is shrinking.

 

[Adios]

People are needed over in Norwich. Empty downtown.

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

Drive through the "Quiet Corner" and you will have 3 questions. Who the hell actually lives here? Where do they possibly work? How do they entertain themselves?

As someone who grew up in Coventry, I can answer these questions:

1. People who were born there tend to live there.
2. They work... for... UConn. Or FedEx in Willington. Or somewhere in Manchester/South Windsor.
3. Copious amounts of alcohol and drugs.

 

[Stinger92860]

Bridgeport Metro Area (Fairfield Cty) = 2.6% pop growth 2010-13

That doesn't crack the top 100 among the nation's 350+ metro areas.

These areas may be growing, but they are losing ground to other parts of the country that are growing faster. That is UConn's problem - its share of the pie is shrinking.

Calling it the Bridgeport Metro Area is misleading. If we had a county seat it would likely be Stamford.

Fairfield County is ranked number 44 in the US for Average Household Income, despite Bridgeport. Here are the numbers

Rank/Area/Household Income/Population
44Fairfield CountyConnecticut$77,289925,899

Bridgeport Metro Area (Fairfield Cty) = 2.6% pop growth 2010-13

That doesn't crack the top 100 among the nation's 350+ metro areas.

These areas may be growing, but they are losing ground to other parts of the country that are growing faster. That is UConn's problem - its share of the pie is shrinking.

Calling it the Bridgeport Metro Area is misleading. If we had a county seat it would likely be Stamford.

All I could find is 2011 data. Fairfield County is ranked number 44 in the US for Average Household Income, despite Bridgeport. Here are the numbers. This is a target area for consumer spending.

Rank/Area/Household Income/Population
44Fairfield CountyConnecticut$77,289925,899

 

[Vowelguy]

Calling it the Bridgeport Metro Area is misleading. If we had a county seat it would likely be Stamford.

Take it up with the US Office of Management and Budget, which defines metro areas in the US.

Officially, it is the Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT metro area.

Fairfield County is ranked number 44 in the US for Average Household Income, despite Bridgeport. Here are the numbers. This is a target area for consumer spending.

Trust me, I know all the data. I use it in my job.
It doesn't matter which metric you use, CT's importance is declining. That's a big obstacle.

 

[Exit 4]

It doesn't matter which metric you use, CT's importance is declining. That's a big obstacle.

Exactly, that's the bottomline. I'm not happy about it, just being frank about it.

Lots of intelligent observations here in the link below:
1) NYC metro area has actually pulled away from LA in population - rather astonishing considering LA has an advantage in weather, cost of living and lack of density (but doesnt have the mass transit).
2) Notice chart #2, Hartford area with 1.2M people, is on par with Pittsburgh, Detroit and Buffalo for flat to negative growth. That's not the place to be.

http://www.newgeography.com/content...t-2013-metropolitan-area-population-estimates

 

[Exit 4]

I was going to ask this very thing.

Per the table below, The NYC metro area has grown at a faster pace the the Hartford metro area. Pretty much everyplace that isnt St Louis, Cleveland, Buffalo, Pittsburgh or Providence is ahead of Hartford. Most are way ahead on growth.

http://www.newgeography.com/content...t-2013-metropolitan-area-population-estimates

Crap - This table became useless once I published the post. See the table in the link instead.

Table 2
Major Metropolitan Area Population: 2010, 2012 & 2013
Metropolitan Areas2010201220132010-132012-13
Atlanta, GA 5,304,197 5,454,429 5,522,9424.12%1.26%
Austin, TX 1,727,784 1,835,110 1,883,0518.99%2.61%
Baltimore, MD 2,715,312 2,753,922 2,770,7382.04%0.61%
Birmingham, AL 1,129,096 1,134,915 1,140,3000.99%0.47%
Boston, MA-NH 4,564,054 4,642,095 4,684,2992.63%0.91%
Buffalo, NY 1,135,314 1,133,767 1,134,115-0.11%0.03%
Charlotte, NC-SC 2,223,635 2,294,990 2,335,3585.02%1.76%
Chicago, IL-IN-WI 9,470,335 9,514,059 9,537,2890.71%0.24%
Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN 2,117,344 2,129,309 2,137,4060.95%0.38%
Cleveland, OH 2,075,690 2,064,739 2,064,725-0.53%0.00%
Columbus, OH 1,906,243 1,944,937 1,967,0663.19%1.14%
Dallas-Fort Worth, TX 6,452,758 6,702,801 6,810,9135.55%1.61%
Denver, CO 2,553,829 2,646,694 2,697,4765.62%1.92%
Detroit, MI 4,291,400 4,292,832 4,294,9830.08%0.05%
Grand Rapids, MI 989,196 1,005,493 1,016,6032.77%1.10%
Hartford, CT 1,214,014 1,214,503 1,215,2110.10%0.06%
Houston, TX 5,948,689 6,175,466 6,313,1586.13%2.23%
Indianapolis. IN 1,892,323 1,929,207 1,953,9613.26%1.28%
Jacksonville, FL 1,349,095 1,378,040 1,394,6243.37%1.20%
Kansas City, MO-KS 2,013,691 2,038,690 2,054,4732.03%0.77%
Las Vegas, NV 1,953,106 1,997,659 2,027,8683.83%1.51%
Los Angeles, CA 12,844,070 13,037,045 13,131,4312.24%0.72%
Louisville, KY-IN 1,237,851 1,251,538 1,262,2611.97%0.86%
Memphis, TN-MS-AR 1,326,595 1,340,739 1,341,7461.14%0.08%
Miami, FL 5,581,524 5,763,282 5,828,1914.42%1.13%
Milwaukee,WI 1,556,549 1,566,182 1,569,6590.84%0.22%
Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN-WI 3,355,167 3,422,417 3,459,1463.10%1.07%
Nashville, TN 1,675,945 1,726,759 1,757,9124.89%1.80%
New Orleans. LA 1,195,757 1,227,656 1,240,9773.78%1.09%
New York, NY-NJ-PA 19,596,183 19,837,753 19,949,5021.80%0.56%
Oklahoma City, OK 1,257,883 1,297,397 1,319,6774.91%1.72%
Orlando, FL 2,139,372 2,223,456 2,267,8466.01%2.00%
Philadelphia, PA-NJ-DE-MD 5,971,397 6,019,533 6,034,6781.06%0.25%
Phoenix, AZ 4,208,770 4,327,632 4,398,7624.51%1.64%
Pittsburgh, PA 2,356,658 2,360,989 2,360,8670.18%-0.01%
Portland, OR-WA 2,232,177 2,289,038 2,314,5543.69%1.11%
Providence, RI-MA 1,601,798 1,601,160 1,604,2910.16%0.20%
Raleigh, NC 1,137,351 1,188,504 1,214,5166.78%2.19%
Richmond, VA 1,210,015 1,232,954 1,245,7642.95%1.04%
Riverside-San Bernardino, CA 4,244,089 4,342,332 4,380,8783.22%0.89%
Rochester, NY 1,080,081 1,082,375 1,083,2780.30%0.08%
Sacramento, CA 2,154,417 2,193,927 2,215,7702.85%1.00%
St. Louis,, MO-IL 2,789,893 2,796,506 2,801,0560.40%0.16%
Salt Lake City, UT 1,091,452 1,123,943 1,140,4834.49%1.47%
San Antonio, TX 2,153,288 2,234,494 2,277,5505.77%1.93%
San Diego, CA 3,104,182 3,176,138 3,211,2523.45%1.11%
San Francisco-Oakland, CA 4,344,584 4,454,159 4,516,2763.95%1.39%
San Jose, CA 1,842,076 1,892,894 1,919,6414.21%1.41%
Seattle, WA 3,448,425 3,552,591 3,610,1054.69%1.62%
Tampa-St. Petersburg, FL 2,788,961 2,845,178 2,870,5692.93%0.89%
Virginia Beach-Norfolk, VA-NC 1,680,120 1,698,410 1,707,3691.62%0.53%
Washington, DC-VA-MD-WV 5,664,789 5,862,594 5,949,8595.03%1.49%
Major Metropolitan Areas 169,898,524 173,253,232 174,942,4252.97%0.97%

 

[BoatShow]

As someone who grew up in Coventry, I can answer these questions:

1. People who were born there tend to live there.
2. They work... for... UConn. Or FedEx in Willington. Or somewhere in Manchester/South Windsor.
3. Copious amounts of alcohol and drugs.

I don't really consider Coventry the Quiet Corner. It's more central and a bit too southern but I think it technically counts. Yes if you live Coventry its an easy commute to Manchester and even Hartford, though. Oddly enough, I actually do work at a school in the deep deep Quiet Corner but no one who works there really live in the surrounding towns.

 

[RoderickSpode]

Coventry is definitely part of the quiet corner. Sure it has easy access to Hartford and some bedroom-community type neighborhoods, but drive around some of its back roads and I doubt you could distinguish it from towns like Ashford, Chaplin, Pomfret, etc.

 

[FAIRTIDES]

As someone who grew up in Coventry, I can answer these questions:

1. People who were born there tend to live there.
2. They work... for... UConn. Or FedEx in Willington. Or somewhere in Manchester/South Windsor.
3. Copious amounts of alcohol and drugs.

Okay, you listed the good stuff. Any negatives? Sounds like the sixties, to me.

 

[Exit 4]

Lack of Population Growth - a serious issue for the economic health of CT.

http://www.hartfordbusiness.com/article/20140609/PRINTEDITION/306069957

I honestly think B1G sports could help reverse this situation by dramatically increasing the sense of place / regional identity that is lacking for central CT.