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Message: [QUOTE="KnightBridgeAZ, post: 4271650, member: 591"] Yes La Tech was an elite program and is no longer. Rutgers was at least in the next tier down and is no longer. La Tech's downfall wasn't so much Barmore leaving (although that was a factor) as it was the changing scape of Women's Basketball where teams from smaller schools in mid-major or worse conferences cannot attract the talent to excel as they once did. And in the stacked world of NCAA tournament seeding, it would be very difficult to come into the tournament with any advantage. There are good mid-major teams, but their chance of becoming elite and even making a final four are (in the women's game) slim. [/QUOTE]