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Message: [QUOTE="diggerfoot, post: 4271544, member: 1673"] I would have thought we were saying the same thing until the end. Moving forward Louisville may attract more coaches like Walz, they may start recruiting like the top three or four universities, whereas maybe fifteen years from now they are considered an elite program. UConn may or may not be an elite program once Auriemma retires. Now that we are out of the AAC we stand a chance, just as Tennessee was indicating to be an elite program when they continued to recruit so well after Summitt left. Fortunately for us they since hired two alumnus as coaches who have yet to prove themselves as elite and even recruiting has lost some luster, but I bet they still will reemerge as an elite program once the coaching rights itself. On the other hand, La Tech and Barmore = dominant, but La Tech an elite program, no. They suffered immediately, substantially and irrevocably once Barmore left. But as I mentioned before, if you want to define a program as that which a coach implements with the tools they have to work with, including conference affiliation, etc, then yes, most college programs with an elite coach by definition become elite programs … for the time being … and what happens before or after that coach is not relevant. What is elite only has meaning for the moment. It’s certainly an OK way for framing the issue, but I would have worded the OP differently in that case. [/QUOTE]